Plot on a slope: first floor plan idea & request for feedback

  • Erstellt am 2021-03-18 22:01:31

GaertM1

2021-03-18 22:01:31
  • #1
Hello everyone,
we have now started with the first "internal" draft planning and I would be very grateful to get some feedback – especially on "ideas" from us that are completely off...

Development Plan/Restrictions:
"Facts"
no development plan, last plot at the edge of a village area
Size of the plot: 330m² (approx. 21.8m x 14.8m)
Slope: incline approx. 7°
Clay-loam soil, limestone at shallow depth

Information according to building inquiry
Site coverage ratio: 0.6
Floor area ratio: 1.2
Street = building line
2 parking spaces
Number of floors: max. 2 full floors
Roof shape: any
Eaves height 6m
Ridge height 10m

Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: flat roof would be nice, but e.g. also "modern barn"
Basement as a semi-basement due to slope, above it a "real" floor
2 persons (35, 36)
Room requirement on ground floor, upper floor: total approx. 200 m²
Office: 2x home office
Guests per year: none
Open architecture
modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: not necessary, 2 parking spaces would also be ok
Utility garden, greenhouse: as little garden as possible
Other wishes: KNX, air conditioning for main rooms

House design
Who is the planner: do-it-yourself
What do you especially like? Why?: actual living rooms on one level
What do you dislike? Why?: bathroom and dressing room borderline "small"
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: approx. 500 to max. 700 K€
Preferred heating technology: we don’t really care

If you have to do without, which details/extensions
-you can do without: lounge on the ground floor, pantry
-you cannot do without: guest WC on the upper floor, dressing room, clear room height on the upper floor at least 2.70m (better 3m)

Why is the design the way it is now? For example
"Tinkering around" with the eaves height while making use of setback areas
as little earthworks as possible (see soil...)

What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Have I completely misjudged something fundamental? Is one detail of the design "absurdly expensive"?

Note 1: Views are initially only meant to generally present the plot situation – windows & co still look pretty bad...
Note 2: The plan is drawn reasonably to scale (5mm grid = 50 cm), numbers in () are m²; north is bottom left on GF and UF, the beautiful view to the south is top right :-)

Already now: many thanks for all feedback!!!





 

ypg

2021-03-18 23:02:35
  • #2
Somehow it has the charm of an abandoned parking garage or the shell constructions in southern countries... I don’t see modern barn :oops: No, honestly: simply lining up squares next to each other and thereby creating passage rooms and trapped rooms is not house planning. There is no terrace? I mean, without a car view, but from the living room?
 

Gerddieter

2021-03-19 00:23:55
  • #3
Hi find the self-made draft extremely modest. It lacks almost everything that makes a living space lovable.... Are you walking from the office to the technical room? Terrace with a view of the carport? Where are the corridors connecting the room accesses? You find the bathroom with 12 small but not the bedroom with 13? I find the bathroom more than large. And you enter the second office from the living room? Where is the general entrance? Where is the balcony? And where was north again? Let yourselves be inspired by endless floor plans from the www or get help from the architect or the draftsman of the GU... Best regards GD
 

haydee

2021-03-19 03:19:12
  • #4
Uh really the charm of a parking garage.

The design is an example that size is not everything.

Are you vampires? If you have such an aversion to being outside, why not a nice condo?

Get catalogs, floor plans, and inspiration on the Internet.
Create a room program. Not just the rooms, but also what should go in them. Your wine cellar has more shelf meters than the dressing room.

Throw away the floor plan and start again.

have houses for 2.
do you still find the house with a whirlpool on the upper floor?
 

rick2018

2021-03-19 08:05:39
  • #5
The access is not entirely clear to me yet.

The very awkward room layout has already been discussed. The walk-through rooms make little sense and take up space.
The technology is difficult to reach. Together with house connections, ventilation, heating, photovoltaics, etc., the space on the wall becomes tight.
From which side is the house accessed? If you have to wrap everything around the house, it will become significantly more expensive.

Also, the lounge and terrace will hardly be used because everything has to be carried through the house.
The house simply has no indoor/outdoor connection.
The kitchen on the upper floor in the projecting section presumably means thicker ceilings. The kitchen also needs to be drained. To create the slope, the ceiling becomes thicker; additionally, this ceiling must be insulated as it forms part of the building envelope.
You will also have to carry everything up through the stairwell.

How do you want to open the windows? There must be fall protection everywhere there. Let's not even start talking about cleaning the windows...

I would put a photovoltaic system on the roof. Skylights in the flat roof are always a weak point when it comes to tightness.

I am a fan of individualism. But this floor plan does not work. Unfortunately, back to the drawing board.

You might want to read a bit about our project, even though it is a bit larger. Many things could also be implemented in a smaller building.
We were almost the same age when we started planning. In total, it was almost three years of meticulous planning.


Please keep us updated.
 

Elokine

2021-03-19 08:26:54
  • #6
Positively said: it can be better! Office in the basement without windows? Small, cramped rooms... all that has already been said. Use the opportunities that planning for 2 people offers. I immediately thought of the house in the vineyard by baurmannn.dürr Architekten in Göcklingen when I saw your property and the description of your wishes. As inspiration.
 

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