Opinion on floor plan

  • Erstellt am 2016-06-13 14:59:58

Climbee

2016-06-14 11:06:53
  • #1
I can only agree with many of the previous speakers:

- way too small windows, even for a country house and often in unusable places.

- a combined access to an open living/kitchen/dining area is not bad, but then it should be centrally located or between the individual functional areas, so that you enter this living area and can then decide whether to go towards the kitchen, the living area, or the dining room. Here you stand right in the kitchen and if you just want to watch TV, you have to walk through the whole house. Also think the other way around: you're sitting on the couch in the evening and someone has to pee... That will be a little journey...

- Pantry under the stairs? Who came up with that idea? You want a traditional country house, then you should also orient yourself to traditional room layout: a pantry belongs in the north. You have a busy street there anyway. Great! Noise hardly matters for things in the pantry. So pantry on the north side, with a window and direct access to the kitchen. Always having to go through the hallway is annoying and you also have to use the only door to the living area, so someone is always running in and out. Well, good luck if you want to quickly get something. (Honestly: I have rarely seen anything so impractical). If you don't have basement stairs and want to use the space under the stairs, I would rather set up a small closet for cleaning supplies & co. There it doesn't matter if it smells a bit musty. But a pantry without fresh air supply - that would be a no-go for me.

- I see one thing differently than my predecessors: I can very well imagine building the house around a well-planned kitchen. Emphasis on WELL-PLANNED. This one is not. Fridge and stove behind the door. Although I assume you mean the oven here, right? Because next to it is a ceramic cooktop. But whatever: you stand at the fridge or oven and work, and everyone who comes in bangs the door into your back. Good luck with that! There are back protectors for motorcyclists. I would seriously recommend one for kitchen planning... No, seriously: a kitchen is the center of the house, right! But then please please go to a good kitchen planner with the floor plan and have a kitchen designed where you can cook without injury risk!! Two corner drawers? Trash. Those are emergency solutions. I would only do that if there were no other options and there are plenty here! It makes sense to go to a kitchen planner before final planning, they will be happy, believe me, because then they are not bound to (possibly unusable or poorly) distributed connections, but you can plan the connections as it makes sense for a good kitchen.

- Utility room upstairs! Do you seriously want to drag dirty laundry down first and clean laundry up??? And if downstairs, then combine it with the sewing room, make a proper room out of both. It often happens that you notice something needs mending while doing laundry. Now you run with the item through the hallway, through the kitchen, the pantry area, the huge (stupidly divided) living room and back... well, okay, that keeps you fit...

- Doorways I would always plan at least 1m wide. That's wide, yes, but you don't get younger. My father was in a wheelchair at the end and you just need wider doorways. If anything happens and you need a wheelchair, even temporarily, you should at least be able to get to the toilet. At 73 cm that's definitely not possible.

Overall, I find the entire room layout unbalanced and it would be too dark for me. And the kitchen would not work at all (but I am also a confessed kitchen freak).

Definitely have an architect support you! And as mentioned above, I also strongly recommend a kitchen planner ASAP. And someone for the bathroom, there is also a lot of potential for improvement.

Just my 2 cents...
 

wirausa

2016-06-14 14:13:28
  • #2
Phew, you really don’t leave a single good word about the floor plan.

We now have a house with a north and south orientation. The kitchen/dining area is on the north side, so it’s really very dark. Especially since there is a garden shed behind the windows, which also takes away the little light there is. The brighter it is outside – at least that’s how it seems to us – the darker it is in the kitchen and at the dining table. To get to the living room, you have to go through the hallway with the staircase.

Our greatest wish is an open living-dining area, as shown in the plan.

The kitchen that is so special to us: It is a solid wood kitchen that my husband made himself as a carpenter. The wood used for the fronts is also spruce and oak, which my father-in-law cut himself in the forest about 15 years ago. My father-in-law took his own life 10 years ago. That simply gives the kitchen such a high sentimental value for us. It fits perfectly as an L-shaped kitchen in the current room. The kitchen is now just under a year old. As mentioned at the beginning, the whole construction thing came up very suddenly for us.

Our dream is simply the large living area with the kitchen in the east, lots of light from the south and also from the west.

The stove next to the kitchen entrance door is a wood stove. We have one like this now, and we don’t want to miss it. I love cooking on it. However, it needs to be connected to the chimney.

A nice “tiled stove” is also absolutely essential for us to have in the house.

In our eyes, the biggest problem is that we want the kitchen in the east, naturally the stove also in the kitchen, but the tiled stove centrally in both the living room and the dining room. And the whole thing is supposed to be open as well. The whole floor plan draft is probably an attempt at a compromise to fit everything in.

I find a small window in the WC absolutely sufficient. It was important to us that it’s not on the north side. We simply prefer it that way.

The laundry room is actually deliberately on the ground floor since I want to dry the laundry outside as often as possible. We do the ironing in the living room in the evening (if there is anything to iron; I’m not one of those people who absolutely iron every t-shirt). My husband doesn’t need shirts for work.

Sewing is a very passionate hobby of mine. However, I like to be close to my husband, which is why we planned the room where it is now. I can sew but still talk to him if he’s in the living room.

An acquaintance of ours drew the plan according to our specifications, hence the exterior view with this program.

Regarding the attic: The room layout is not fixed at all yet. It is not meant to be. The two small windows on the east and west are by no means intended to flood everything with light. We are thinking more about dormers and/or skylights later. We probably only need the ridge beam and wall plates to hopefully remain flexible for later installation. The carpenter is building in beams so that a subsequent installation can be done without any problems.
 

Climbee

2016-06-14 14:38:16
  • #3
uuuups, twice, sorry...

I wanted to say something about the kitchen: the center of the kitchen is where the work is done. So stove/oven, refrigerator, and, if possible and there is space here, sufficient counter space.
You have squeezed exactly the area with the least space into the corner. Why???

I would move the main area to the middle, that is to the wall on the right. Behind a door you create storage space, specifically for things you don't need every day.
The kitchen is large, I would probably even consider an island solution here. Not a square one, but a narrower one, parallel to the kitchen units on the right side (where I would put the main area). And put the ceramic cooktop on the island. That way, you can cook together with the whole family really well!
If you have such an island solution, then with a second (small) sink on the island.

The refrigerator in the last corner, exactly as far away as possible from the dining area. If someone wants a drink while eating... and if it’s the one who sits at the head of the bench, he’s out of luck *g*
So I would definitely bring the refrigerator closer to the living area.

Overall, I would reconsider the floor plan very carefully, possibly plan anew with an architect.
In any case, I would at least move the door away from there and let it enter the large room in the middle.

Instead of the half-hearted utility room [HW-Raum], a pantry with a window to the outside and direct access to the kitchen.

My parents also have such a dining corner with a three-sided bench. I wouldn’t want that anymore. Those sitting in the back on the bench always have to climb over the backs of the others. That’s annoying. But if you absolutely want that, then go ahead.

Personally, I would have the kitchen/pantry along the entire right side, the dining room where no one here knows what the room is for, and put the door there, leaving the living room as it is.

The pantry should be accessible not only from the kitchen but also from the hallway, so you don’t have to walk through half the house with the groceries.
 

Climbee

2016-06-14 14:41:29
  • #4
oh, the kitchen is already there, but you can also realize an island solution with it: simply cover the back with matching wood or, if there is enough space, plan an open shelf.

I think you can still vary here with existing kitchen elements. Especially if your husband is a carpenter.
 

ypg

2016-06-14 20:02:17
  • #5


Many, many reasons to consult an architect.

Nevertheless, I have to say that there are many standard floor plans that meet your requirements and work better than the drawing above.
And your kitchen: you can then adapt it to any room... And a cooktop absolutely _not_ _never ever_ belongs in a traffic zone.
 

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