Offer evaluation for external facility northern RLP

With two left hands and zero clue, of course there’s no chance to build a wall. You have to inform yourself, of course. But honestly, where’s the real problem? Height differences along the way can be taken into account in the foundation, the garden landscaper doesn’t do it any differently. As an amateur, you just can’t move large and heavy parts but have to work with smaller stones.

Difficult... You "can" also lay tiles, you "can" also do painting work etc. It is always a question of how it all fits into an overall picture, how cleanly the work is done, how durable everything is and whether everything also looks good later on. You don’t have to kid yourself... If something doesn’t fit in the end, you’ll be annoyed to death. These are exactly the disadvantages of it - of course you "can" also save money and try it yourself.

Poor appearance due to sloppy work or downright safety-hazardous botching can also happen with a professional. There are more than enough examples of this here in the forum. In that respect, honestly, there is not much else to do but to deal with the topic. And even high-quality execution by a professional does not ultimately guarantee that everything will be to one's liking. Sometimes, you want something different than what you actually like. Spending more time dealing with the topic increases the chance that you’ll be right. For me, for example, it is hard to imagine that the appearance of waist-high L-stones actually appeals to nearly as many people as use them. Or do they always just show it to the neighbor who then has to deal with it?

Be that as it may, I accept the argument "I might not like that," but to derive from that immediately "it’s all way too difficult and complicated," that is too much for me. There is a point at which I wouldn’t do it anymore, for example, with 1.5m walls. But you can also look at the property planning to see if you can avoid something like that by working with the terrain. Because I would neither want to impose that on myself nor on the neighbor.

Poor appearance due to sloppy work or downright safety-endangering botched jobs can also happen with professionals. There are more than enough examples here in the forum. Therefore, honestly, you don't have much choice but to deal with the topic. And even high-quality execution by a professional does not guarantee in the end that everything will look good. Sometimes you want something different than what actually appeals to you. Spending more time on the subject increases the chance that you are right. For me, for example, it is hard to imagine that the appearance of chest-high L-stones actually pleases even remotely as many people as install them. Or do they always only show them to the neighbor who then has to deal with them?

Be that as it may, I accept the argument "I might not like it," but to derive "this is all much too difficult and complicated" right away, that's too much for me. There is a point at which I wouldn’t do it anymore, and that is, for example, at 1.5m walls. But in property planning, you can also look at whether you can avoid something like that by working with the terrain. I wouldn’t want to impose that on myself or the neighbor.

As I said, it always depends on the terrain.

A courtyard with a 40cm slope over, for example, 6-7 meters with different heights in the driveway area, house entrance area, is fundamentally not easy to work on. You can acquire as much knowledge as you want, it is simply difficult!

Pouring concrete neatly, setting stones is definitely not easy, especially with a correspondingly UNEVEN terrain.

Yes, you are quite right that botched jobs can happen anywhere.

The only difference is this: If something doesn't suit me in the way it was executed by a professional, I have a basis to have it improved, or I simply don't pay the bill as long as it doesn’t look the way I envision it.

For me, this definitely makes a difference... Not everyone dares to take on such work!

My tip: Try to see if you can get the prices lowered by helping out! Bring 2-3 people to the construction site - mostly act as laborers and save some costs that way. It definitely makes sense to have someone on site who has PRACTICAL knowledge.

We also tried to do some things ourselves - we mostly succeeded - but knowledge in theory just looks so much different than in practice.

And if your limit is at 1.5-meter walls, for others it might be reached much earlier?

For a colleague of mine, the limit is already reached when assembling a chest of drawers.

Dear community, due to the exploding prices we need an evaluation of the attached offer. We are building on a slight slope and therefore need two levels secured by L-walls. In addition, the earthworks around the house are offered as well as the required paving without materials. Is it adequate or rather too expensive, what do you think? It would be a great help to us! Many thanks to you all [ATTACH alt="angebotsbewertung-Außenanlage-noerdliches-rlp-573971-1.jpg"]71692[/ATTACH]

Great offer, an acquaintance in Erkenbrechtsweiler recently paid 42k, accept it!

With a colleague of mine, the issue already arises when assembling a dresser.

I never really understood those people anyway. But maybe I’m lucky that my parents did a lot themselves. Not with the house construction because that was bought, but everything that comes up to maintain and expand a house and a garden. They also built the garage themselves and later an extension, the garden house as a wooden frame construction, and wooden shelters. And of course the kids had to help, especially the eldest because he was best suited for manual work ;)
In that respect, I definitely have some basic knowledge about concreting, paving, etc.

I never understood those people anyway. But maybe I'm lucky that my parents did a lot themselves. Not with the house construction because that was bought, but everything that comes up to maintain and expand a house and a garden. They also built the garage themselves and later an extension, the garden shed as a timber frame construction, and wooden shelters. And of course, the children had to help, especially the eldest, because he was best suited for helper tasks ;) In this respect, I certainly have some basic knowledge when it comes to concreting, paving, etc.

Yes - you just can't generalize from your knowledge to others...

You can transfer that to all areas.

Just because you acquire some knowledge about tax returns (which I would laugh about), that doesn't mean someone else doesn’t go to a tax advisor and just have it done.

You have to know your limits and also know for yourself what you CAN do and, above all, even more importantly, what you WANT to do...