Offer comparison and liquidity planning for new construction, any experiences?

What does "good" really mean? A good legal department that makes sure every critical comment gets deleted? You always have to assume that the bigger the company, the more you pay for the whole fuss around it. Salespeople cost money, model homes cost money, catalogs, websites, etc. etc. All things that may be nice but from which you get nothing (except that you lose a bunch of money). Architect is all well and good, but with the construction sum and with kfw the whole program then goes into six figures.

Good based on tests (Focus Money) and user experiences on the internet.

The equipment requests are, well, not exactly extraordinary. 50 Euro floor coverings, that’s normal nowadays. Electric shutters too. The real money is earned on the additions. Shed roof, green roof, yes, you just have to be a bit picky, something the tie-wearers from the model homes usually can’t do. Photovoltaics with storage: you want kfw, so that’s not a question. 300 is like 297 plus 40+ QNG Costs saving: the sliding window in the living room is almost as expensive as all the other windows on the ground floor combined. Oak staircase: well, you can get a German one for 20 thousand, a Pole can do it for 10 thousand as well. I would rather put the thing at around 500, including architect etc.

I have also read often enough about the additions, but as long as we meticulously check the contract (and have it checked by experts) and already know what we want through the pre-sampling, we hope to keep these costs under control. The sliding window is not quite that expensive, but really a very large item and a good point to still negotiate.

What exactly do you mean by shed roof and green roof "you just have to be a bit picky"? Do you see opportunities to come out cheaper there? All providers offer the green roof with photovoltaic mounting as well. We are also considering whether we can contract that separately cheaper. But we also lack the knowledge here about how it is really executed technically. 10° roof pitch with green roof and how exactly is the mounting fixed without damaging the sealing?

170sqm floor area on 2 full floors on a slab (also with the background to replace the missing basement and garage) At least 5 bedrooms (2 children's rooms, master bedroom and 2 offices / guest rooms for home office)

I believe your planning suffers from desperately trying to integrate storage space into the living space. We also built without a basement and without a garage. However, not with 2 full floors, but with a lower knee wall in the upper floor and therefore a loft that is absolutely sufficient for us to store things today. Maybe an approach you should think about once, instead of always wanting to make the house bigger just to gain storage space.

I think your planning is flawed because you desperately want to integrate storage space into the living space. We also built without a basement and without a garage. But instead of 2 full floors, we built the upper floor with a lower knee wall and therefore a loft space that is absolutely sufficient for storage today. Maybe an approach you should consider instead of always wanting to make the house bigger just to gain storage space.

Hm thanks, I'll take a look at that. With a 10-degree shed roof and a ridge height of 6.9m, I honestly find that difficult to imagine. Storage is only a small part and here it’s about a few square meters. It’s more the general luxury that we don’t just want a 10 sqm kids’ room and 30 sqm kitchen+dining+living room. We'd rather buy an existing property before that.

Having a single-family house with 170m² of living space built (without personal contribution) is absolute luxury. Having 500k saved up is also the same. However, you apparently are not aware of this. Additionally, you can still get a very high interest-free loan. It doesn’t get much better than this! Either you have to lower your expectations or the new development area does not fit your budget.

Why are we not aware of this? And how do these answers help us? It seems to me that this is primarily about envy and the request to speak badly.

So please, didn't you initially mention that you feel poor because a fully finished oversized house can't just be paid for like that? That is a harsh slap in the face to those who make sure you can put aside 500k. The much-cited nurse or the broad shoulders of society simply can't do that.

If you truly understood how pathetic you are trying here to get the best for yourself, then you wouldn't need a thread where it is occasionally said that normal is completely sufficient. Then you would have scaled back to an affordable level yourself. So far, you are trying to negotiate a Mercedes at the Dacia dealer. That is not a very nice and certainly not a sustainable trait.