Notes for floor plan design desired

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11ant

2017-07-18 17:51:19
  • #1
In the considerations, you're slim and agile; in practice, you’re lugging a laundry basket around.

Columns with a gap behind them to the house wall are something different, and would also be designed somewhat slimmer than planned here.

I didn’t necessarily mean enlarging the house. Rather, to either change it to a classical rectangular floor plan of the same size (which will conflict with the requirement for a full floor), or to convert the captain’s gable into a somewhat more Southern German style return. It is only supposed to be traditional – which tradition is not prescribed. For such reasons, these development plan requirements usually achieve exactly what they want to prevent.

With a circle around the "II" – so the second full floor is mandatory.

means: as a sloped roof floor as planned, it should be, but it must become a full floor.

is the hint that if 30° roof pitch (almost never enough) up to 50° roof pitch (already a significantly better starting point) alone is not enough to create a full floor area-wise, then by increasing the knee wall height the full floor must be fulfilled. In my opinion, a Frisian house with a knee wall of one and a half meters stops being traditional. But the Brandenburgers aren’t really true Frisians anyway ;-)
 

Freedark

2017-07-18 20:37:18
  • #2


So if this were to apply, it would at least be a completely opposing view to the statements we have received so far.
I have now tried to read around the term "full storey" a bit. Apparently, there are different definitions in the federal states.
In § 2 para. 4 Brandenburg Building Code the following is explained:



Unfortunately, I cannot currently assess whether this formulation, which I consider somewhat general, should be evaluated positively or negatively in our case.
The upper storey would in any case protrude more than 1.40 m above the ground surface.
 

ypg

2017-07-18 21:31:32
  • #3


Apparently you are lucky! There was an amendment to the building code in Brandenburg. A storey is already a full storey if it has even just one habitable room. That is unique.

In this respect, what you want to build is allowed.

....if I understood everything correctly with my quick skimming ;)
 

11ant

2017-07-19 00:28:48
  • #4

That's how it is. Building regulations are a state competence. Typical - and underlying my and some others' statements here - is to compare the area on which a room height of, for example, 2.30 m is reached with that of the floor below (and if it is two-thirds or three-quarters as large or larger, to also classify it as a full floor). However, this is not necessarily the case; each state building code can see it differently. 2.80 m is an approximately average measure for a floor height. Therefore, 1.40 m is often taken as half of that as a benchmark to clearly classify a basement as a cellar or ground floor in terms of a "half full or half empty glass". This is important when a development plan measures the eaves height from the ground floor floor level (so that you cannot then choose which is the ground floor).


Such freedoms also arise for a state building code from federalism.

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As I explained, it would mean: if the steepness of the roof alone is not sufficient to make the attic floor shaft-height equal to the ground floor on more than two-thirds of the area (measured against that of the ground floor), then you would practically have to pump it up by increasing the knee wall aka "Drempel".
 

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