New regulation of property tax from 2020

: The article in the FAZ is revealing, but so is your quick research on Alibaba.

& Fuchur: Yeah, sure you two; your salary is also paid from tax revenue. It's not a reproach; just a statement. In Germany, taxes are simply very high, that's how it is, and not everyone is as happy about it as you two are.

@ Fuchur: It's not political bashing, rather tax bashing. As someone who has earned money in the private sector, I for example also pay the SPARKLING WINE TAX very gladly. It's already known who introduced it when and for what reason, right?

: Just because a tax is very old doesn't mean I have to consider it justified? And about the city bus: The last one leaves in the evening at six. Regarding daycare fees: Why does something like that have to be free or cheap? Taking care of children is a difficult and responsible task, costs, for example, completely different amounts in Switzerland and children are born there too. When I bring children into the world (we have two), I don't expect afterwards that a state or a municipality will raise, shelter, etc. them for free. But that's my personal opinion. Many see it differently, I know.

They will definitely NOT raise the property tax by 30 times. Common sense (haha, a classic Scheuer) should tell you that. After all, there is no interest in letting rents explode even further. Someone has to be able to pay for it all. It will probably end up more or less like it is now, maybe with a small increase. What has had a much greater impact in recent years is what the municipalities have done with the assessment rate. Property taxes have simply been doubled here and there. But there was rather little fuss about that. So I’d say: wait first, then start complaining, and don’t do it in advance.

You can always still pay under reservation... and if the Constitutional Court then overturns it, you might get something back... or so.

I'm already considering Switzerland

Hi Elina, I was there for eleven years. It was great, you just need to be aware of one thing: you will never be able or want to work in DE again afterwards. a) Salary there and b) tax rates there. They are really worlds apart...

Well, what do you mean by whining. The calculations of the FAZ go in the same direction. It only becomes bearable if the [Hebesätze] were then lowered. I live in a strapped municipality under the household security plan. Let's see where we end up in 2025 but experience shows that it never gets cheaper for the citizen.

I just don’t see the connection between my personal opinion and the fact that my salary is paid from tax money. Does that make a difference? I don’t get more or less salary depending on tax revenues. And I pay income tax and all other contributions like everyone else.

Yes, the tax burden in Germany is high. Yes, there is also massive tax waste. Both on a small and large scale. That doesn’t need to be sugarcoated. And yet we are among the leaders worldwide in many state services financed by contributions. Despite all the abuse and mishandling, I am glad as a high earner that we have functioning social systems, that everyone who is sick can go to the doctor and get the necessary treatments, and that not a single person in our country has to live on the street unless they choose to do so. I am happy to pay taxes for that, even knowing that a certain percentage of Hartz 4 recipients exploit benefits and some public expenditures end up in the pockets of relatives of the decision-makers.