New regulation of property tax from 2020

And I have also worked in countries (in the service of the German government) where head-bashing was rather smoothly carried out. Of course, it’s a matter of habit. But in these countries, there is no support, the taxes are not generously allocated to the head-bashers.

Have you ever considered that cause and effect might be the other way around?

That is, that people are supported so they don’t become head-bashers, rather than supporting head-bashers?

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This insistence on “everything earned by oneself” annoys me enormously, which comes out in some posts. Success is the consequence of initiative, but beyond that a product of the efforts of many others. One is educated in institutions that are collectively financed and learns basic skills there for future success. One uses infrastructure that is collectively financed to be successful. Firefighters, police, municipal hospitals: all form the framework in which one’s own success is even possible.

Those who are successful constantly use the efforts of others for that. As an entrepreneur, those of their employees. As a landlord, those of their tenants. As a shareholder, the workforce of entire companies. And absolutely everyone uses public welfare and public property. (That is why the number of beneficiaries is always greater than the number of contributors, by the way. What else? That is logic).

Really? You can’t be serious... think about it: a plot in the best city center location, for example Munich Stachus / Frankfurter Zeile with 150sqm would then cost less than what we would have to pay here in the countryside for our 450sqm.

However, I don’t have a sensible idea either

Yes, I would find that fair. More land, more tax. Where it would then become much too expensive or cheap, adjustments could be made by changing the multiplier. But for me, this principle would be clear and fair. We have a fairly large (652m2) city plot. I am willing to pay more for it than someone with 300. The land itself was already more expensive than in the countryside, so we have also paid more property transfer tax and purchase price. We are not wealthy; buying the house was barely affordable for us. I believe we have a multiplier of 650%. If that is not significantly lowered, we will have to pay much more than currently. We would be among the absolute losers of the reform.

No Karsten, it's not enough. That's the main point.

You can't just say it like that either. We are currently living on a teacher's salary (not tenured) + child benefit for our daughter and can still put aside about 1000-1200€ every month. Our rent (house construction starting soon) is cheap, however, and we simply don't have high demands. We have a car, hardly ever go to restaurants, only go shopping when we really need something, etc. So it really depends on the circumstances. If we lived in a big city with the same income and had to pay at least triple for a similar apartment, it would of course be much tighter.

Have you ever looked at how much a net teacher's salary is above the German net median salary?

An employee in many other professions cannot replicate that. That has changed compared to earlier.

Edit: This does not mean that teachers earn too much. Others earn too little.

Have you ever looked at how much a net teacher's salary is above the German net median salary?

Employees in many other professions cannot replicate that. That has changed compared to earlier.

Edit: That does not mean that teachers earn too much. Others earn too little.

Where can one find an average net value for full-time? (If you include all mini-jobs and part-time positions, that clearly distorts the average significantly in this case)

Just a different question, has anyone so far understood how it is calculated? Sure, maybe rental value, plot size, standard land value, and assessment rate. But in what proportion?