New construction with developer / construction drawing documents

The property is already very attractive and would make many things easier for us, I do not want to elaborate further on that.

Then I see it like my predecessors, either bite the bullet and build with the developer, or (if at all possible) only the shell and the rest through the architect, although I also assume that it won't be cheaper. You will receive credits from the developer for the trades that will never cover your costs.

Good evening,

As already mentioned, we are quite "blond" in this field.

Then I would like to give your blond face a little push by asking you the following question: would you – as an entrepreneur – sell a piece of land (a piece of land over which you can control and which, ideally, is in a desirable location) to a buyer who only yields you a small margin (closed shell construction) or rather to a buyer who guarantees you the best possible turnover (in terms of your subsidiaries and possibly downstream commission)?

So please bear with me if my ideas seem a bit naive or misleading.

I admit that I have difficulty making friends with this kind of "apology," since it usually comes with a grain of cunning. Because if it were otherwise, I would always assume a thinking person is seeking information before "naive" assumptions about unknown worlds see the light of day (in this case, the light of the forum).

The developer sells land and prefabricated house in solid construction together.

The finished product is only a prefabricated house if it is built with prefabricated wall elements. If, on the other hand, you obtain the "finished" service from the hand of a solid house builder, it remains a solidly constructed single-family house.

What would be important for me to know is whether I get the necessary documents (execution plans, for example) so that I can see where which connections are in the house, in order to seamlessly connect my own planning to them.

Only for the contractually owed service "shell construction" (if the developer even agrees to this; which I personally would doubt). For the interior finishing, you then have to commission another architect with the service "execution plans."

In any case, I will discuss the pros and cons of my project with an architect, maybe after that I will already be "cured."

If the land you desire is not exactly in the middle of nowhere or requires a clever architect from the start for planning reasons – or alternatively the developer urgently needs money – your cure should find you at the moment you inform the developer about your plans.

... to get my "special" wishes within a viable cost framework.

What would those be?

Rhine greetings

However, we have various change requests that become unacceptably expensive according to the developer's price list.

To have a benchmark, what price expectations does the developer have for what? Maybe we can tell you whether they are really astronomical prices or if they just seem that way to you because you are not aware of the craftsmen and small parts costs.

Hello,

here are a few numbers for listed extras:

Tiles ground floor 40m² = €4000
Underfloor heating ground floor 60m² = €7000 (Rehau Rautherm)
Windows on the ground floor lockable = €500 (2 patio doors and 2 windows) (Windows are present, only the lockability costs this amount extra)
Electric shutters on the ground floor = €1800 (1x terrace and 2 windows)
Additional socket = €69
Additional TV socket = €600 (connection to central satellite system)
Additional telephone connection = €200

We have not yet discussed individual changes, such as room layout (moving drywall partitions). Also, connections for washing machine and dryer are not yet arranged. There is still plenty of need for discussion. However, we are already at about €380,000 for a plot of approx. 350m², a mid-terrace house with 130m² and two parking spaces, and all this with standard equipment. What that means, anyone who has ever read a standard construction service description probably knows.


I find it admirable how much time you invest here in the forum to share your wisdom.

Those are indeed quite high prices. I don’t know what kind of premium sockets you have in Hamburg, but in the Ruhr area, you can get three for that price. And for the price of your TV socket, we were able to equip every room with a connection. But I still believe that your developer holds the upper hand. The special requests are just his chance to make more money...