New building with electric heating

  • Erstellt am 2014-11-07 15:07:17

extc2020

2014-11-07 21:58:03
  • #1
: You haven't read my explanations about the absence. The electric heating would take over. I am single. With a wheelchair, I have to sell anyway. I have wood stored for 10 years. Who knows what will happen in 30 years... Maybe you only need to heat from December to February then But you are probably right that a gas heating system is better in old age.
 

Jochen104

2014-11-08 09:46:27
  • #2
Yes, I did indeed overlook that. What I actually wanted to say: You should install a heating system solely because of the resale value and retirement planning. Which one and how it should be designed is better to ask an energy consultant. Who in a few years will buy a house without underfloor heating and without radiators (and the necessary pipes)? If you want to switch later in life, you have to redo everything. It’s like buying a house from 100 years ago without heating today => a lot of work to retrofit everything.
 

Bauexperte

2014-11-08 11:24:55
  • #3
Hello Matthias,


When I read the above statement alone, I feel transported back to my childhood, with the one difference that we still wrapped the briquettes in newspaper.

I wonder how one (meaning you) seriously wants to implement such a project?! Heating with electricity is basically not a bad idea; but then please consistently with a reasonable, storage-coupled photovoltaic system. For that, there would also be no need for a conventional underfloor heating system; there are wonderful marble radiant heaters which you can position as a picture on the wall. Heating the domestic hot water using an instantaneous water heater is also not a bad idea; meaning it is better and especially cheaper than its reputation. Ask a reasonable expert, they will confirm this to you.

These days, I would certainly not use a wood stove - especially not in the old-fashioned style - as a heat generator; with that you lose any kind of privacy because everything must always be open up to the roof so that ventilation flows are not obstructed. What you, as a single person, apparently do not consider at all is that nowadays "modern" and not "back to the roots" is the trend. From this, it can be easily inferred that, if a later sale or even renting is to be considered, there will hardly be buyers/tenants who will welcome your experiment with the same enthusiasm as you.

In my opinion, a fireplace should run as a "nice to have," in transitional phases - there are still homeowners who turn off their heating systems during the summer - creating a cozy atmosphere. Everything beyond that is costly and labor-intensive but not very convincing; even if you stockpile an entire forest behind your house.

Go to the energy agency near you and discuss your ideas about heat generation with them. I am almost certain that their considerations will align perfectly with the above thoughts.

Rhenish greetings
 

ypg

2014-11-08 12:05:41
  • #4


Laugh, I have to correct you a little, but I myself thought of "Back to the Roots" while reading this thread

It’s not about creating something modern - modernity, like the country house style, is a matter of taste at a certain time.
It’s much more about building a contemporary house (in times of ecology, energy saving regulations, that is, in the third millennium).

@ Matthias: Honestly: what is a house worth without heating?
I think what you envision is nice to implement in a holiday home

We have an additional wood stove that currently provides us with cozy extra warmth. And yes: as long as the openness of the floor plan allows it, the heat also rises upstairs.
But don’t believe that a guest toilet or another room on the ground floor that can be closed off with a door gets any of the heat.

Regards Yvonne
 

Kardionaut

2014-11-08 12:06:58
  • #5
we have Kfw 40 and heat only with electricity. We have ceiling radiators (radiant heat) and underfloor heating with electric grids under the tiles in all tiled rooms. Proper insulation, triple-glazed windows, and a ventilation system with heat recovery. Domestic hot water is provided by an air heat pump. And on the roof a photovoltaic system. The remaining heat demand which must be compensated by electricity is 20 watts/sqm (no guarantee, but I think that's how it was).

Regards
 

Kardionaut

2014-11-08 12:20:57
  • #6
I believe the concepts contradict each other. I have already understood that the fireplace is supposed to be your primary heat source, but I would like to point out a concern.

Heating with electricity only works if you have a super-insulated house. And I don't just mean some kind of ETICS, but the whole package; otherwise, heating with electricity becomes uneconomical. I don't know to what extent a fireplace, chimney, etc., contradicts the philosophy due to thermal bridges, connections to the outside, and so on.....
They even advise against exhaust air (kitchen) to avoid interrupting the insulated envelope, and then you come along with a chimney, hmm...

But I must emphasize again, I am an layman....
 

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