Gustl89
2017-08-16 19:35:58
- #1
Hello dear members,
first of all, I would like to introduce myself.
My name is Christopher, I am a good 28 years young, a technical draftsman.
I have longtime experience with industrial installations, large projects at home & abroad, I am artistically active on the side, and this is my first step towards building a house.
The dream of owning a home has existed for several years, however, I have to say that I am a permanent single and intend to remain so.
However, there is a little son
In my area, you pay horrendous amounts for rent. In my case, 70 sqm = almost €900 warm rent.
I gave up the installation life abroad about 2 years ago and now hold a fairly well-paid position as a technical draftsman in the metal sector.
As I said, I am artistically active, and have always built and planned things myself (as far as possible)..
A typical detached house is definitely out of the question for me as a permanent single, simply too expensive. Instead, the idea came up to practically just build an "apartment" on my own land. Thus, a bungalow.
However, the whole thing should not become a life task, so (please don’t hate me) it should be a low-budget project. I am waiving any frills that seem to be standard nowadays. I am also waiving a basement. Only a floor heating system is something I could imagine.
The floor plan of the bungalow should be designed in an L-shape.
The idea to build the bungalow with a relatively small budget comes from the fact that I cannot come to terms with the fixed prices of various builders. Even if I can afford it, I do not want to pay more than I need. In most forums, you get weird looks when you talk about saving costs. I just don’t want to help finance some builder’s new Porsche.
Now to the idea:
To keep costs down, I had the idea to build the L-bungalow like this:
About 100 sqm living area.
From a company or with their support, I only want the foundation slab, the external walls (that is, the exterior L-side, is that understood?) and the flat roof to be assembled. No built interior walls, and the inside L-side should be made entirely of glass elements. Can you imagine what I mean?!
To support the ceiling, I can easily imagine an ugly support at the corner.
All lines should simply be available only at central points, so that expensive installations throughout the house would be eliminated (kitchen and bathroom right next to each other).
I do not want interior walls because 1. I prefer everything open due to my artistic nature, and 2. actually only want bathroom, 1 bedroom, and possibly a small broom closet separated as rooms - these I would then build myself with drywall as desired.
So basically a loft in L-shape on my own land.
Heating will be with wood - an open fireplace. My parents have been heating only that way for a long time and are very satisfied.
For any installations, I have someone close to me for each area.
Masons & plasterers are also abundantly available.
Can this be realized with prefab walls or would you build masonry?
What have I forgotten?
What else should be considered?
What costs should I expect?!
We will leave aside building regulations in the respective area for now.
I think I can claim to realize the project with 100-150k (without land).
What costs would you estimate for the foundation slab of 100 sqm?! (I have very good contact to the son of a large concrete company, i.e. I could get concrete relatively cheap)
Would you get the floor-to-ceiling windows cheaper abroad?! After all, it is quite a few meters.
What I basically want to know is if such a simple bungalow can be realized with the budget?! Assuming own work, or if I should just forget about it?!
I do not want and cannot go into debt with 300k as a single, because I also want to live, so no detached house. It should be simple, low-maintenance, and if possible, affordable in the height of the current rent. An owner-occupier apartment is not an option because I hate stuff like that!!
I also don’t want to bother builders yet because I am still quite young, so I am easy prey, and they might rip me off. My current half-knowledge in house building is not enough yet for such negotiations.
Where did you inform yourselves about what really costs what, what you really need, etc.?!
In the attachment I try to add a picture from Google as I roughly imagine it (unfortunately not an L-bungalow, but it should illustrate my idea) – so basically just foundation slab, 2 exterior walls, ceiling, the rest glass.
The glass in the picture is too expensive, I know that.
Best regards
The Greenhorn Gustl
first of all, I would like to introduce myself.
My name is Christopher, I am a good 28 years young, a technical draftsman.
I have longtime experience with industrial installations, large projects at home & abroad, I am artistically active on the side, and this is my first step towards building a house.
The dream of owning a home has existed for several years, however, I have to say that I am a permanent single and intend to remain so.
However, there is a little son
In my area, you pay horrendous amounts for rent. In my case, 70 sqm = almost €900 warm rent.
I gave up the installation life abroad about 2 years ago and now hold a fairly well-paid position as a technical draftsman in the metal sector.
As I said, I am artistically active, and have always built and planned things myself (as far as possible)..
A typical detached house is definitely out of the question for me as a permanent single, simply too expensive. Instead, the idea came up to practically just build an "apartment" on my own land. Thus, a bungalow.
However, the whole thing should not become a life task, so (please don’t hate me) it should be a low-budget project. I am waiving any frills that seem to be standard nowadays. I am also waiving a basement. Only a floor heating system is something I could imagine.
The floor plan of the bungalow should be designed in an L-shape.
The idea to build the bungalow with a relatively small budget comes from the fact that I cannot come to terms with the fixed prices of various builders. Even if I can afford it, I do not want to pay more than I need. In most forums, you get weird looks when you talk about saving costs. I just don’t want to help finance some builder’s new Porsche.
Now to the idea:
To keep costs down, I had the idea to build the L-bungalow like this:
About 100 sqm living area.
From a company or with their support, I only want the foundation slab, the external walls (that is, the exterior L-side, is that understood?) and the flat roof to be assembled. No built interior walls, and the inside L-side should be made entirely of glass elements. Can you imagine what I mean?!
To support the ceiling, I can easily imagine an ugly support at the corner.
All lines should simply be available only at central points, so that expensive installations throughout the house would be eliminated (kitchen and bathroom right next to each other).
I do not want interior walls because 1. I prefer everything open due to my artistic nature, and 2. actually only want bathroom, 1 bedroom, and possibly a small broom closet separated as rooms - these I would then build myself with drywall as desired.
So basically a loft in L-shape on my own land.
Heating will be with wood - an open fireplace. My parents have been heating only that way for a long time and are very satisfied.
For any installations, I have someone close to me for each area.
Masons & plasterers are also abundantly available.
Can this be realized with prefab walls or would you build masonry?
What have I forgotten?
What else should be considered?
What costs should I expect?!
We will leave aside building regulations in the respective area for now.
I think I can claim to realize the project with 100-150k (without land).
What costs would you estimate for the foundation slab of 100 sqm?! (I have very good contact to the son of a large concrete company, i.e. I could get concrete relatively cheap)
Would you get the floor-to-ceiling windows cheaper abroad?! After all, it is quite a few meters.
What I basically want to know is if such a simple bungalow can be realized with the budget?! Assuming own work, or if I should just forget about it?!
I do not want and cannot go into debt with 300k as a single, because I also want to live, so no detached house. It should be simple, low-maintenance, and if possible, affordable in the height of the current rent. An owner-occupier apartment is not an option because I hate stuff like that!!
I also don’t want to bother builders yet because I am still quite young, so I am easy prey, and they might rip me off. My current half-knowledge in house building is not enough yet for such negotiations.
Where did you inform yourselves about what really costs what, what you really need, etc.?!
In the attachment I try to add a picture from Google as I roughly imagine it (unfortunately not an L-bungalow, but it should illustrate my idea) – so basically just foundation slab, 2 exterior walls, ceiling, the rest glass.
The glass in the picture is too expensive, I know that.
Best regards
The Greenhorn Gustl