Layout optimization of a settlement house

Sporty is good. Even in Saarland, that will never work. You will have to significantly reduce and reschedule, the space wastage on the ground floor is madness anyway. What's the point of the huge airlock and toilet? Two garages?

Floor area ratio - 0.4 Floor space index - 0.5 [...] Roof shape - not prescribed according to BBPL, but must probably be built in the settlement style, i.e. gable roof with 50°

In the development plan I recognize several floor area ratios and floor space indices, but no assignment of which applies to which field (and not even the field boundaries). I did not find floor area ratio 0.4 and floor space index 0.5 at all, and they would be unusually close together in combination with a steep gable roof. Settlement style is humorously interpreted very literally in the form that it looks attached on two sides.

"Not prescribed" and "gable roof 50°, settlement style" are a contradiction, not least because the development plan and the integration requirement only apply either one or the other. If there is a development plan, then §34 does not apply; and in development plans there is no presumption - it is either prescribed or not.

Hello everyone,


It was a bit clumsy of me not to indicate where north is
In the development plan, north is at the top. The street is located where the arrow is in the development plan. Accordingly, the house will be positioned so that the terrace faces east.
The bathrooms have not been planned yet; this is just a sample drawing.
Laundry chute will be difficult since the utility room is not underneath the bathroom.


I have already explained the cardinal direction.
Regarding the garage, we have also already complained about the middle wall. So it will be changed.
The shower in the WC was our wish to have an escape option (sometimes necessary with 5 people). The airlock was also intentionally designed so that groceries/drink crates or, for example, dirty shoes do not have to be carried through the apartment.
I would also prefer the upper floor as proposed.
The sliding door in front of the kitchen is to be made larger; I will take the tips for the hallway to heart.


Is that so unrealistic? We don’t have an offer yet.


Now you’re scaring me a bit. How much does such a thing roughly cost?
Well, I don’t see a second bathroom and storage space as well as two garages as a waste of space.
Do you all have only one car and get by with one bathroom?


An excerpt of the text of the development plan is attached. There are no specifications in the plan, but since building will take place within an existing structure, the building authority apparently insists on the construction method. That’s what the architect says. I’m not familiar with it and have to trust that.

There is a reason why many skip the basement and only afford a simple carport added later. Or why they do without a kitchen island, because it takes up space and that also has to be paid for. You have 2-3 sqm more than average in almost every room. That’s great, I like that too, but overall that also results in a higher price at the bottom right. 8 sqm for a shower toilet, even if it is meant to serve as a spare bathroom, is almost decadent.

Where I see a problem is the thermal envelope. The garages are integrated into the house and included in the exterior shell. I can’t explain anything to you as a layman, but I can imagine that something like that makes a house quite expensive.

The house with basement alone is already not feasible with 300,000, the technical effort comes on top.

About the laundry chute: I wouldn’t wash without a laundry chute! I would strike and move out! Sorry! With 5 people, how often is laundry done??? Surely every day...

A laundry chute can also start in the hallway, but I think the rooms should have been planned quite differently, after all, life should be made as easy as possible. You don’t want to bring barriers into the house?! Therefore, I would have played around with the rooms: the 10-year-old could for example already get their room on the ground floor, because they will soon leave the nest. Utility room upstairs. Garages out of the thermal envelope, entrance facing north, multipurpose room facing southwest with a nice west terrace.

But the design seems to be fixed already?

I just realized you are female. Unfortunately, Tapatalk doesn’t show that. Do you do the laundry? Many plan their utility room upstairs. What also plays a role in the pricing story: the basement, which is apparently also finished as a living basement here, so it is also heated.

So, the draft is not final yet. It can still be moved back and forth playfully. They are now calculating the costs for us based on this plan (there is no contract yet, of course, they don't want to plan further without payment).

The bathroom on the ground floor turned out a bit large, we have already discussed that.

To avoid misunderstandings: the 300,000 is an approximate estimate on our part for the house WITHOUT [Grundstück]!

I would definitely like a laundry chute. Maybe we should rethink the room concept and happily swap rooms and move walls around.
Taking the garage out of the house wouldn't fit the [Grundstück] (18m wide) unless you give up the 2nd garage.

... To avoid misunderstanding: the 300,000 is an approximate estimate on our part for the house WITHOUT the land....

It is often cheaper here in the north, but with 1800/sqm living space, those here who can estimate well are pretty accurate.
At 220 sqm living space, you are already at 400,000.
In addition, there is the garage with a "difficult location" and the basement, which will probably be partially finished.
With incidental construction costs, you have the 5 in front.
Unfortunately, our expert for the numbers is no longer here, but she was often spot on, as later users confirmed.
For her, the painting work and floor coverings would still be added now.

I'm just saying!