Land and floor plan design with access in the southeast

  • Erstellt am 2025-04-13 14:52:41

K a t j a

2025-04-14 16:36:51
  • #1
Just briefly about the floor plan: I would start over there. The reason is the chimney in the pantry (much too warm) and the dark cloakroom.
 

Häuslebauer26

2025-04-15 20:36:39
  • #2
First of all, many thanks for all your answers and the effort you put in! I will try to address all points as best as possible.


Theoretically, we are at a point where we could definitely start completely from scratch again. Whether this is necessary, we do not know at the moment.
As already mentioned, we are mostly satisfied except for minor details.


I take this misunderstanding directly on my own account. At the beginning, we were more inclined towards a typical gable roof house, rectangular. Then, during the ideas phase with the architect, we moved towards a town villa and from there we proceeded to the current design. What exactly you call what we have now – no idea.
The fact is, we are not fixed on a square or rectangle. It should be practical.


What exactly do you mean by point 1, dividing the wardrobe? Currently, we have practically planned it on both sides already, even though we are not yet fully 100% happy with it.
Regarding the roof: With the hip roof, we have the possibility to build two full floors with a ceiling height of about 2.63 m. Also, the photovoltaic can be distributed on the south and west roof. With the gable roof, the knee wall in the upper floor becomes too low and as soon as the sun moves to the west around 2:30 / 3 pm, that's it for the photovoltaics.


If we make it one meter bigger, then the whole hallway is full... that's why we have not really wanted to do that so far.


And these 2-3 minor things are exactly what concerns us.


There is storage space on the stage / under the roof for this. That just has to be enough. On this topic, we are really at the point where nothing more can be done given the house costs and loan conditions.


The kitchen is a placeholder – sorry, I did not express that that way. The overall dimension is correct, but the cabinet layout is not.


That is an approach we liked. We directly passed it on to the architect and asked for a design. Thanks!


So far, we have tried to avoid this topic because the fireplace then has to be higher than the roof and thus tends to look like an industrial chimney. Meanwhile, we are thinking, can we ignore it? It would be on the left side of the house from the street view and would definitely catch the eye...


This is actually a point I would like to contradict.
Yes, we would have a central underfloor heating via air-water heat pump and this would be the main heating method. But calling the fireplace nonsense I find difficult. A Raspberry Pi will never be able to imitate the feeling and warmth of a stove fire. And that is really nice every now and then, I would say.
Sure, it is a luxury, but a cozy one.

All in all, many other points came up, but your input has already helped us a lot.
We will now try to rearrange some things on the ground floor, the pantry, the fireplace situation and the wardrobe.
I will get back to you with new plans.

Happy Easter, everyone
 

Arauki11

2025-04-15 22:09:28
  • #3
Of course, it’s a matter of taste. Ours is gray and we like it with our wooden facade. I would rather take a very concrete look at the pros and cons of a chimney in conjunction with a rather sluggish underfloor heating system. We use it a lot in winter and only use infrared or air conditioning occasionally for additional heating. But if you only want to use the fireplace on a few nice evenings and not really heat regularly, I would seriously consider whether it’s worth spending that much money on it and definitely install an air conditioning system. My wife was initially skeptical about this, but today she says it was one of the really good decisions we made for the house because the air conditioning is 100% powered by photovoltaics and is always used in winter for quick additional heating. A really nice and good wood stove costs a lot of money, the pipes and connections as well, chimney sweep. As I said, because of occasional use I would set other priorities, especially with underfloor heating. In addition, the interior chimney takes up space or causes some other problem. I certainly don’t want to advertise it, as depending on the use I wouldn’t have a chimney anyway, but I really like it better than some slate-clad chimney somewhere on the roof, but that is always subject to fortunately different tastes. Some outdoor units of the heat pump in our neighborhood seem more like an eyesore to me if they are unluckily placed.
 

Schorsch_baut

2025-04-15 22:15:34
  • #4
We have not used our wood stove for two years and are seriously considering dismantling the stove to make better use of the space. I wouldn't have thought so either, but it really gets too warm for us and we prefer to sit outside by the fire bowl rather than in front of the glass panel.
 

ypg

2025-04-15 23:07:45
  • #5
You just have to know that there is hardly any mezzanine left and that items have to be stored in a complicated way. It’s no coincidence that the architect didn’t draw a loft ladder. He means that two sides are to be avoided: on one side cabinets, the other wall can accommodate a bench and/or a dresser. However, there is currently not enough cabinet space on either side. See here: Pantry, fireplace duct room, wardrobe. My solution: approach the pantry radically and question the sentence and the sentence “you can’t do without: - the pantry itself” yourself. What is supposed to bring added value to the house? The pantry is often and also here the evil of an otherwise successful house plan.
 

motorradsilke

2025-04-15 23:41:39
  • #6

I especially love a fireplace with a sluggish underfloor heating system. During the day, when you are moving around, the 21 degrees Celsius that the underfloor heating is set to is sufficient. But in the evening when sitting down, it’s not warm enough for us. So in winter and transitional seasons, we often heat additionally in the evenings with the fireplace. We wouldn’t want to miss it.
 

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