KFW 50EE or 40EE - Is the upgrade worthwhile?

  • Erstellt am 2021-10-23 08:39:43

11ant

2021-10-23 15:18:38
  • #1

You should de-naivify your ideas of construction facts and connections – for example by reading around here a bit :)

If this is supposed to be a description of your general contractor’s construction method, then you’d better choose another one.

In reality, site-built garages also have independent walls on all sides touching the house for static and thermal reasons, and are otherwise properly sealed elastically – unless the general contractor takes the position of having nothing to do with the “client-ordered” garage, and its installer sees his job as done once it is unloaded. But anyway, I recommend an architect to you, no matter who builds or supplies house and garage. I hope I can get your wife on board with this opinion as well ;-)

Does that mean your wife is "pro" car box? – by the way, I have several ugly ones (the garages, of course), all out of sight from my home.
 

Seb_Opf

2021-10-23 15:34:32
  • #2
The prefabricated garages would also come through the general contractor... he's a construction company with 150 people...

Yes, she also finds architects nice but then the costs would go up even more, I think, right? Basically, I would have a lot of time for coordination, etc. for professional reasons...



The car box consisting of 3 prefabricated garages (2 driveway gates) is supposed to cost 34k... If you only want one big gate about 45k... For the same in masonry about 60k is called for...
But yes, she only sees the costs here... like with the ventilation or electric blinds that are supposed to cost almost 9k...
 

11ant

2021-10-23 15:43:24
  • #3
"Or" is the correct answer :) ... in my opinion would be three boxes. According to the description, they want to offer you a three-part set, that is, two single garages with cut-out side walls assembled together, and behind them a third one without a gate, used as a storage room? An architect does not only coordinate, but tell me more ...
 

Seb_Opf

2021-10-23 15:57:22
  • #4
So it can also be just as cheap/cheaper than a general contractor? Learned something new :) Correct since we don’t have a basement. I work max 1-3 days a week (not full week Mo-Fr). Therefore, I would also have the time to talk to companies and get offers. However, I do have the probably justified fear that if I put a roof truss out to tender, I will get three offers... whether the cheapest is junk and only for cheapos I simply cannot distinguish... On the other hand, I would/want to work on the construction site on my days off... colleagues could also be recruited for that. --> but only for auxiliary work: cutting stones, carrying iron, setting supports, pulling cables, milling slots, etc... That would not be possible with the general contractor either
 

11ant

2021-10-23 18:55:24
  • #5
I would never rule out a general contractor in the tender. But their "planning" quality is completely different. What the architect "costs" extra, he compensates for with avoided fiddling around. You can get a significantly better-built house for little money that way. Let a professional do it – preferably the designing and supervising architect. The naive way laymen tender regularly leads to the opposite of their expectations. I also do tenders (and coachings on how to do them), but no construction supervision. Office people regularly overestimate how reliably they can carry out their own work fitting into the scheduling of the tasks. Especially many of the preparatory and auxiliary tasks are time-critical.
 

Seb_Opf

2021-10-24 08:11:15
  • #6


So we should, if anything, hand over phases 1-8 to an architect. What will something like that cost? I’ve read that with some you can also agree on a flat rate?! We are planning around 150 sqm with a double garage and a utility room ~500k +-



We are not sitting in an office We always have full days off so not just an hour after work time... Still not feasible?
 

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