Is lightning protection necessary for new buildings?

  • Erstellt am 2023-06-19 18:09:40

roestzwiee

2024-04-09 21:39:26
  • #1
I am following up with another question:

Can it generally be said that a lightning conductor / lightning protection on a timber frame house (does not) make sense?

What happens if lightning strikes the lightning conductor / a grounded gutter? Can a fire still occur despite the lightning conductor? Is the probability of a lightning strike higher if grounding is present?
 

k-man2021

2024-04-09 22:12:29
  • #2
Search for Dehn Blitzplaner, everything is in there, including risk assessment, legal regulations, technology, etc.

In my opinion, there is no simple answer. Years ago, we had a semi-detached house with a large walnut tree next to it, which was significantly taller than all the neighboring houses, so we saw no need for a lightning rod. It only took 3 years before lightning struck the neighbor’s house... fire in his attic, almost all our electrical appliances were destroyed. Now we have been living for 20 years in a detached house with a lightning rod and it doesn’t even thunder.
 

k-man2021

2024-04-09 22:24:11
  • #3
Even if it were, would your house then be protected… if the electric field strength is so high that it discharges in a lightning strike, then the lightning will probably strike the lightning rod rather than the neighbor's house if it is exactly the same height. But the lightning is not „attracted“.
 

*Dipol*

2024-04-28 02:22:21
  • #4
Whether this electrician belongs to the approximately 20% of the guild who still faithfully hold a VDE subscription selection for electrical engineering crafts, you have to determine yourself. However, even electricians with such a subscription are not lightning protection specialists, and where building regulations do not require a lightning protection system, there is no obligation to ground gutters or downpipes.

Nevertheless, it is sensible to design grounding systems so that they can also be used later for a lightning protection system and to plan connection lugs for a lightning protection system with minimal additional cost during the installation of the grounding system. In that case, the downpipes should also be connected with the connection lugs.

Lightning currents use every path to earth. They distribute almost independently of cross section according to the inductive resistances in loop conductors and will not fulfill the wishful thinking of only discharging on the outside even with exceptionally lightning current-capable connectors.
Google "DIN 18014:2023-06" and check whether this company even meets the requirements for the installation and documentation of earth electrodes.
Lightning protection systems have no eternal life and must be maintained at intervals. With a lightning protection system, a functional grounding of the module carriers according to DIN VDE 000-712 and DIN EN 62305-3 (VDE 0185-305-3, supplement 5) is mandatory; without a lightning protection system, contrary to frequent incorrect statements, it is not.

IF a functional grounding is installed, then according to German standards it must be routed directly adjacent to the photovoltaic lines, which excludes the option with the downpipe.

See the DEHN lightning planner for this. Even with at least 2 down conductors for a lightning protection system, functional grounding conductors of at least 6 mm² (separation distance maintained) or 16 mm² Cu (separation distance not maintained) are normatively required.
 

*Dipol*

2024-04-28 02:43:23
  • #5
In all previous studies of lightning damage, NO increased local strike frequency has been found due to lightning protection systems, photovoltaic systems, and/or antenna systems of typical building heights.

However, lightning preferentially strikes edges, corners, and especially points with high field line concentration, which is why masts of terrestrial roof antennas act as unwanted lightning receptors. Where lightning preferentially strikes can be determined quite accurately using the scientific lightning sphere method.

Direct strikes are objectively rare, and anyone who wants to protect their house or individual roof structures against them must guard against this with separate air-termination devices according to the state of the art. Direct grounding of antennas or photovoltaic systems with commendable external down conductors and the rarely found lightning current certified connectors and HES with tension clamps cannot prevent partial lightning currents from coupling into the systems during direct strikes and potentially destroying sensitive electronics.
 

*Dipol*

2024-04-28 13:28:33
  • #6
Typo noticed too late, it should have been DIN VDE 0100-712.
 

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