How to plan heating with a heat pump in new construction?

  • Erstellt am 2023-09-30 17:29:11

Benutzer 1001

2023-10-03 12:02:20
  • #1

Therefore, limit the maximum length to 80 meters. Of course, more heating circuits mean a more expensive distributor and pump, well maybe a stronger one. But those are one-time costs in the hundreds of euros range.

Tolentino has already said everything about the buffer, and the best buffer is the screed; that’s tons of material.
 

dertill

2023-10-05 16:01:13
  • #2

Not every tip is worth its weight in gold, even if it is expressed with confidence and without any bad intentions.



A supply temperature of 25°C is not practical and I have not yet seen it implemented. Whether the supply temperature at design temperature (NAT, approx. -10 to -12°C) is 30° or 35°C does not play a major role in electricity consumption; these are single-digit percentage values you can save by the smaller temperature differential. However, lowering the supply temperature below a certain value brings other advantages.
With 35°C supply temperature, you have a floor surface temperature of around 27°C and, for example, a room temperature of 22°C. If the sun shines and your room warms up to 24°C, you still have significant heat output to the room and you need a single room controller that shuts off the respective heating circuits. Classic underfloor heating with classic individual room control.
If the supply temperature is lowered to 30°C, you have a floor surface temperature of about 24°C. If you now have a higher heat input into the room through the sun or other sources, you automatically have almost no or no heat output to the room from 24°C. You no longer need individual room control; instead, the temperature in the rooms automatically adjusts based on the installed pipe length and the flow rate.
If you want to reach 23°C or 24°C in the bathroom, you need this 30°C in the supply; otherwise, you cannot warm the room. Especially in the bathroom, where you have higher air exchange. You won’t get far with 25°C. Maybe 28°C works, but 30°C works just as well and 28°C brings no added value.
At 30°C, of course, underused rooms or bedrooms can also be equipped with individual room controllers, but at least half should be "unregulated". The desired temperatures are then set once centrally via hydraulic and thermal balancing and adjusted in adjacent rooms on request.




The pipe spacing can also be larger than 10 cm and the walls are not mandatory in the bathroom either. The important thing is the result of the heat load calculation. First calculate, then plan pipe lengths; from this results the pipe spacing and whether walls should also be covered. The goal should be a low supply temperature at design temperature. Ideally below 30°C to be able to do without individual room control without problems.
Regarding pipe length, I would not go over 80 m with regard to flow and pressure loss, but especially I would not vary it greatly. Balancing becomes more difficult the larger the differences between heating circuits are.



That contradicts itself. Building Energy Act 2023 with 150 m² results in about 35-50W/m², depending on volume, location, and window area. So 5-7.5 kW heat load. The 7.5 is rather the upper limit, but the questioner did not say he is building to KfW40 standard. More precise information comes from the heat load calculation and room-specific heat load calculation, which should absolutely be carried out. Otherwise, the underfloor heating cannot be designed and the size of the heat pump should not be determined based on square meters.

To avoid misunderstandings: BUFFER tanks serve for room heat supply, a DOMESTIC HOT WATER tank to fill the bathtub. The former, as already mentioned, should ideally be completely avoided; the latter should be chosen with a large heat exchanger surface (>3m²). 200-300 l depending on the number of bathtubs.

Harsh accusation, I cannot confirm that. There are uninformed, committed, and those you mentioned. In my experience, they each make up about a third.
 

Karlsson

2023-10-07 17:30:29
  • #3
It is clear that I need the heating load calculation and I will request it now. Then I would approach you here again and maybe you will have a few more tips.
 

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