House purchase and house construction - What can we afford

  • Erstellt am 2023-10-02 11:08:17

Yaso2.0

2023-12-04 11:14:18
  • #1


Exceptions prove the rule ;)



No, of course not. I just wanted to say that it can also go differently, even if it will probably happen less often than more often..
 

phil.anja

2023-12-04 11:16:57
  • #2


That is just your very narrow view of things.
Here in the south, especially in our rapidly growing industry, people aged 50+ are regularly hired on a permanent basis.
Certainly partly due to lack of alternatives because of the shortage of skilled workers. As a rule, people who take the severance and dare to start anew are usually:
a) brave
b) quite good at their profession
c) experienced, something a 25-year-old cannot offer you

The dregs then cling to their previous job to avoid leaving their comfort zone.
 

Almoedi

2023-12-04 11:48:33
  • #3
Daycare(s) are guaranteed through our employers - I don't see that as an issue now. We both only have a 35 or 37-hour week anyway. A €1400 financing would be way too little for me - that's not even 15% of our monthly net income (bonuses included - excluding rent through my condominium (so conservatively calculated, at least another €600/net would be added on top). We currently have a savings rate of over €5000 (and that's before bonuses). (You can't rent an apartment here for €1400.) Whether we will get that salary range again, I don't know / given that we both have pretty good educations (i.e. both have a master's degree) and come from scientifically very sought-after industries - I don't worry about that neither short nor mid-term - whether we can still expect significant salary increases, I would now - considering the current working conditions - also doubt (at least the annual collective agreements according to the underlying collective agreement also apply to us).
 

WilderSueden

2023-12-04 11:51:50
  • #4
I wouldn’t overthink the topic of job too much. For example, I never would have thought that my current employer would basically be dead, with cash flows from existing customers of almost 1.5 million. But no people, no company ;)
 

phil.anja

2023-12-04 12:27:50
  • #5


I also consider the calculation with a secure salary and 30% of that too conservative.
The 30% rule especially applies to other income groups as well.
If your partner definitely wants to work again, parental leave/ losses during parental leave should be financed from equity. I would consistently calculate with 1.5 salaries. And the burden limit is at least 40% of that. So 40% of just under €6k is more like a €2,400 annuity. You would still have a very, very comfortable life without having to restrict yourselves financially too much in case of contingencies. You can always deviate upwards from that value to €3,000, meaning 50%. However, I would rather tend towards €2,400 and invest the rest again.
With a €2,400 annuity, you get about a €500k loan. + equity, you can easily get there.

I consider it very unrealistic/unlikely that you can’t get a 50% position with high-office jobs – of course, there could always be something with a child / care case or similar – but you can’t insure against everything.
Moreover, one of you would be throwing away their talent if you gave up the job entirely.
 

Almoedi

2023-12-04 13:05:40
  • #6
Exactly - we will then see how we do it - but we will definitely both continue working. I would even see our limit of endurance slightly above that, we once played with 4000€/repayment and even then we would have managed with "full" work without problems (rather even more). With 50% at once (which I consider almost too little in a normal situation, but it will be rather tight - this is true).
 

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