House construction planning: solid house or prefabricated house? With or without a basement?

  • Erstellt am 2021-06-01 18:18:37

ypg

2021-06-08 22:37:26
  • #1

Well, then don’t babble so much and read through the forum.
Massive or timber frame is basically irrelevant if you don’t have a favorite.
Basement or not: you have to be able to afford it. Forget the 30,000 ready basements – that’s a bare unfinished basement and can’t serve as a garage.

And forget your tech stuff for now – a house primarily consists of the slab, walls, and roof truss or roof, windows, doors, insulation, and technology. As long as you distract yourself from that, nothing will happen.
 

RomanoD.

2021-06-08 23:01:05
  • #2

True :)
I agree with you.

That is really a great idea :)
Floor plans are actually what I've been constantly looking at after the appearance of houses.
We'll take it easy and start with that tomorrow.


Good approach :)
We’ll start like that tomorrow first...

We basically spend 24/7 most of the time at home and don’t go outside ^^
We also work from home.

Something got mixed up there.
The study doesn’t need its own bathroom.
That was just a list where maybe I missed a comma?
Dropped ceilings?

The idea behind this arose for various reasons.
Since we want a ventilation system, on the one hand the pipes will disappear behind it.
On the other hand, the wish for dropped ceilings came up, to be able to retrofit cables and conduits later on and only have cables disappear in the wall where they run down to the corresponding sockets and switches.
Not to be absolutely restricted regarding cable retrofitting and maximum short distances in case a wall needs to be opened later on—and not all walls throughout the house—if you ever need KNX or power cables or LAN cables somewhere that you didn’t think of in the beginning.
So flexibility in retrofitting, because except for WLAN (which will be turned off by a smart-home capable system from Unifi at the push of a button when going to bed, like everything else), we absolutely do not want to use any radio signals in the house anymore.

This means that under the dropped ceilings there should be cable trays in which cables can also be pulled later.
Above technical shafts, retroactive cable installation across floors should be possible.
So it’s about retrofittability due to the variety of technology we want to use.



We work almost exclusively from home. Currently in a room about 19 something sqm.
That is too small for us.
Furthermore, it’s always problematic when we’re both in the same telephone/video conference and hear each other.
That’s often distracting while working.
Therefore, two separate studies with space are important for us.
Since we also work on a board during a video conference to clarify workflows, we need some free movement space and a bit more room, as each of us has his own area in the company, where the areas eventually flow together anyway.
Since we currently clutter each other and each of us needs space for 4 monitors, our desks are already accordingly large.

There are also various filing cabinets you simply need; we want to design it more functional and divided and with sound separation, whereby a solid wall, whether drywall or masonry, is sufficient in between.
It’s not for making music, only for speaking.

So about 16-18 sqm per study makes sense.
Especially because during a conference we like to move around as if during a presentation and not just stand still.



True, ultimately the house should adapt to our life (thus also the idea for flexible retrofitting).
But you are absolutely right about the floor plan.
The best idea that has come up during our thought and info phase so far.



You are probably right about that.
We’ll approach it like that soon as well.
Even though I’m still tearing your post apart right now, I’ve already noted everything :)



True ^^
I think what really is needed here are visits to the respective companies.
And advice, advice, advice until you make a firm decision here.
I come from a solid masonry house.
However, I was, or rather mentally have been, thinking about a prefab house; why? No idea... through the internet.
The advantages and disadvantages you read about never really helped us here because in the end we always have the gut feeling that a solid masonry house is just solid, which, however, is also written somewhere else about prefab houses.



True, for us it’s more a matter of overcoming to leave our little fortress.
We don’t like being around people.
Not because we put all people in a drawer, that is more historically conditioned with us, since we have experienced both a burglary and stalking in the past.
Therefore, we have been living very secluded for many years.
Regarding friendships, over the years you notice which friends are more interested in themselves rather than in us...
Which leads in the end to only a small, true circle of friends who are interested in maintaining contact.

Because we literally live shut off in a high-security castle (referring to security equipment and absolutely untraceable location of the apartment), we want to have the space inside that we don’t use outside precisely because we practically never go out unless absolutely necessary.

Ultimately, being so secluded and shut off suits us well in the end.

But basically, there is interest in taking a closer look at such parks to get ideas and a feeling for the space you want to create.
Better than only on paper or 3D on the PC.

We’ll do it :)


We’ll do that tomorrow :)

Easier said than done, but it’s part of it :)
Unfortunately, here again the leaving of one’s own sense of security.
But doable and not impossible ^^
Time for walks again ^^


Will do...

Basement because: the tech should go there, and I want a laundry chute right in front of the washing machine ^^
Plus the space requirement for our technology and storage, in case it takes longer again before we want to leave the house ^^
And the storage space you gain there is not to be underestimated for the comparatively low price.
A basement doesn’t have to be ugly if it’s white and tiled :)
My parents’ basement was scary too, but it doesn’t have to be built like that :)

Theoretically, the offices could also be accommodated there as far as I’m concerned.

Since we also want a guest room with a separate bathroom.


Gut feeling says actually solid, but my gut really doesn’t know either ^^



Long story short.
Many thanks for the red thread :)
At least now I have the path we tried to find, and we’ll start with the floor plan tomorrow.

As soon as we have a presentable one, I can upload and share it.
 

RomanoD.

2021-06-08 23:03:05
  • #3
There’s some truth to that :) I’m now starting with the beginning of the red thread we are going to follow first and will definitely report back in the next few days with results :) I’m good at babbling ^^ I never find an end to it ^^
 

i_b_n_a_n

2021-06-08 23:16:34
  • #4
Sorry, I think I'm lost. Only in post #75 do you learn the essentials (2x home office with quite a lot of space needed for, e.g., 4 monitors and even (re)presentation duties), at the same time you give a "certain" impression through your catastrophic language and writing style that makes me doubt the seriousness of your endeavor. (I'm not judging anyone for their style, but it just stands out to me). You talk about budget at the beginning and don't like guesses about your income (but it is important). Everything in this thread is so inconsistent that from now on I'll just sit back and open a bag of chips (the popcorn is gone). One last (probably unwanted) piece of advice: Lay down on the couch, what you described above is no life :rolleyes:
 

RomanoD.

2021-06-08 23:33:56
  • #5


You can see it however you want :)

I just don’t know what one thing has to do with the other?

And of course I talk about budget, after all that’s always what it’s about.

Otherwise, I also don’t know what is wrong with our lifestyle? We don’t annoy anyone with it or even disturb... actually you don’t see or hear us.

And about the presentation duties... so what? Since I am aware of that and have one or two deficits, it doesn’t mean I can’t do anything at all...? There are also people who work their way up in other ways where they’re still not necessarily worse off for it.

Knowing doesn’t mean you can do everything, but only that you know where to find it or who can do it for you :)

And in the very end, I think salary doesn’t belong in a public forum. Basically, I also don’t know what’s wrong with not going overboard when building a house. But that doesn’t require sharing my salary bracket.

I got the information I wanted to find. At least I was able to take away quite a bit from the good answers here to sort out my chaos.

It’s the same at work :) But just because someone is more chaotic and complicated than others doesn’t mean they are not good in any field.

In some cases, exactly that slightly different way of thinking is sought after.

But somewhere I don’t really care what people think of me or about me. After all, you don’t know each other.

In the end, I still found what I was looking for :)
 

11ant

2021-06-09 03:09:22
  • #6
Sounds to me more like than "someone"...
 

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