Gas price increase, the second episode

Some reactions are becoming clear to me….! You’re also around 140/150 sqm with the QM? I have the house itself in mind… Wärmedingsda.. air heat pump or similar. We do have a lot of LED, but also halogen, TV and computer running… so, we pay about €85 for our electricity (no heating) (if not €73… one of the numbers is correct) Then our gas costs are below the average consumption of the electricity costs for modern heating systems :eek:

No, as I said, we have an SHM, which means I know that from our €185 advance payment, nearly €15 are basic charges, and about €53.25 are for heating and hot water (air-water heat pump). The remaining €115 go towards the costs of our lascivious lifestyle, shame on me. ;) That doesn’t surprise me much either, because it roughly matches the electricity consumption in the old house, which had gas heating.

With gas, it just gets harder to be truly sustainable, since it’s in the nature of gas to be rather fossil and bad :D And 100% biogas probably costs quite a bit more.

Ecologically sensible biogas is produced hardly at all. For me, it’s definitely not bio if you harvest your greens from the field and burn them in the plant.

I am with EnviaM from 01.04. at 25.76c/kwh and 10.71€ basic charge per month. Price guarantee for two years.

I am searching myself to death for gas. Currently, I am at 4.5c/kwh. Our municipal utility is the next cheapest at 7.5c/kwh.

I am considering removing the 4-year-old heating system and installing a Panasonic heat pump. With a building-appropriate annual performance factor of 3, I break even at about 9 cents per kwh gas price. Purchase of the heat pump not yet calculated.

I have been with EnviaM since 01.04. at 25.76c/kWh and €10.71 basic charge per month. Price guarantee for two years. I am searching myself to death for gas. Currently, I am at 4.5c/kWh. Our municipal utility is the next cheapest at 7.5c/kWh. I am considering removing the 4-year-old heating system and installing a Panasonic heat pump. With an old building-appropriate annual performance factor of 3, I break even at about 9 cents per kWh gas price. Purchase of the heat pump not yet calculated.

I have been with the above electricity provider for several years. For next year (guaranteed until 30.11.22) I still pay 20.56 ct/kWh gross. I am curious what will come after that and also glad that I have a cascade circuit with the photovoltaic system here and, through that, can also cover some heating/domestic hot water electricity demand.

I am with EnviaM from 01.04. at 25.76c/kWh and €10.71 basic price per month. Price guarantee for two years.

Good choice! At these prices, a second meter for heat pump electricity is not worth it.

I have been with the above electricity provider for several years. For next year (guaranteed until 30.11.22) I still pay 20.56 ct/kWh gross. I am curious to see what comes after that and also glad that I have a cascade connection here with the photovoltaic system and can cover some heating/domestic hot water electricity demand with it.

We have that too, but in winter it feels like a drop in the bucket.
In good winter months we get 10% from the photovoltaic system and 90% from the grid, in bad ones sometimes only 6/94.
Overall, about 14% of our energy for the air-water heat pump comes from the photovoltaic system, but that is also due to the summer months and the energy management that further heats the domestic hot water in case of photovoltaic surplus.

We benefit significantly more from the photovoltaic system in summer; then it can be used for the air conditioning.
Of course, it can look different if you have a much larger dimensioned photovoltaic system.