andimann
2023-01-11 09:33:55
- #1
Hello,
The terrace seems a bit expensive to me, that’s 270 euros/sqm. Larch (by the way, it’s not particularly durable – after 10 years it will be done) you get for 40-60 €/sqm. With substructure etc., the material shouldn’t be more than 70-90 €/sqm. The 2k for the material seems tight to me, but it’s definitely possible under 3k. Then there are 6.5k for the labor.
Tropical wood today is simply no longer acceptable without a guilty conscience. My dealer admitted in conversation (when he still offered tropical wood) that it basically all comes from illegal logging, no matter what label is stuck on it. For one Bankira tree, apparently 50-100 other trees are cut down to get to that one tree. And the quality in no way compares anymore to what you got 20 years ago.
So for the terrace either native larch (not Siberian, the overexploitation is just as bad as with tropical wood), bamboo or the various treated alternatives like Kebony, Thermo ash, Organowood etc. Or WPC.
The treated woods and WPC, including substructure, are fixed at 100-150 €/sqm just for materials.
For the lawn they’re calling 25 euros per sqm. Roll-out lawn including delivery quickly adds up to 7-8 euros. That leaves 18 euros for ground preparation. Doesn’t seem totally overpriced to me, although not a bargain either. But the sum is too small to really save much here. If you do it yourself, in the end with excavator rental and all the gear you’ll easily burn 2k. For 1200 euros I wouldn’t bother.
If you want to save here, skip the roll-out lawn and sow grass. That just takes 6 weeks. But it turns out just as well. The secret to a beautiful lawn is fertilizing and watering!
When you lay the lawn, lay a few water pipes into the garden right away!
For the driveway, make sure you do it frost-deep right away. That means 80 cm deep, then the construction with gravel etc.
Honestly, in your place I’d rather have the driveway done and do the terrace myself later. You constantly carry gravel into the house, that’s really annoying!
Best regards,
Andreas
The terrace seems a bit expensive to me, that’s 270 euros/sqm. Larch (by the way, it’s not particularly durable – after 10 years it will be done) you get for 40-60 €/sqm. With substructure etc., the material shouldn’t be more than 70-90 €/sqm. The 2k for the material seems tight to me, but it’s definitely possible under 3k. Then there are 6.5k for the labor.
Tropical wood today is simply no longer acceptable without a guilty conscience. My dealer admitted in conversation (when he still offered tropical wood) that it basically all comes from illegal logging, no matter what label is stuck on it. For one Bankira tree, apparently 50-100 other trees are cut down to get to that one tree. And the quality in no way compares anymore to what you got 20 years ago.
So for the terrace either native larch (not Siberian, the overexploitation is just as bad as with tropical wood), bamboo or the various treated alternatives like Kebony, Thermo ash, Organowood etc. Or WPC.
The treated woods and WPC, including substructure, are fixed at 100-150 €/sqm just for materials.
For the lawn they’re calling 25 euros per sqm. Roll-out lawn including delivery quickly adds up to 7-8 euros. That leaves 18 euros for ground preparation. Doesn’t seem totally overpriced to me, although not a bargain either. But the sum is too small to really save much here. If you do it yourself, in the end with excavator rental and all the gear you’ll easily burn 2k. For 1200 euros I wouldn’t bother.
If you want to save here, skip the roll-out lawn and sow grass. That just takes 6 weeks. But it turns out just as well. The secret to a beautiful lawn is fertilizing and watering!
When you lay the lawn, lay a few water pipes into the garden right away!
For the driveway, make sure you do it frost-deep right away. That means 80 cm deep, then the construction with gravel etc.
Honestly, in your place I’d rather have the driveway done and do the terrace myself later. You constantly carry gravel into the house, that’s really annoying!
Best regards,
Andreas