Further procedure in case of rejection of the preliminary building inquiry

  • Erstellt am 2016-06-08 16:36:17

MarcWen

2016-06-08 19:32:10
  • #1
Just wait for the rejection notice first. It must be properly justified. It may include additional conditions but certainly no note that the neighbor does not want it.

Otherwise, you have to be aware that this can take a while. I don't know how much time you have. Recently read about a similar case that dragged on for 3 years.
 

Traumfaenger

2016-06-08 20:03:39
  • #2
But I also know a case that took 6 weeks, it always depends on how clear the legal situation is (and whether the municipality was not yet familiar with it ). I don't want to give the original poster any false hopes, but I would at least listen to an expert's assessment taking into account the individual circumstances on site....
 

Otus11

2016-06-08 21:27:44
  • #3


Hello,

I assume that the preliminary building request was submitted and applied for in writing?
(It’s not entirely clear from your wording.)

After that, the authority/municipality would actually have to issue a preliminary building permit (= an administrative act), which must be accompanied by information on legal remedies from the authority/municipality.
From then on, an objection period of one month applies, which must not be missed.
 

Bauexperte

2016-06-08 23:01:50
  • #4
Good evening,


You have to ask yourself what you want: a cuddly approach with an uncertain outcome or let a professional do the work right away?

As Otus has already told you, there are deadlines to meet, which you must observe if you want to keep the possibility of construction open. As a layperson, you simply cannot know which levers you have to turn; an experienced lawyer can. He will also be able to give you a relatively quick prognosis regarding the feasibility of the project; will know whether and if so, how a building application could have a chance of approval. From my point of view, the only viable way. By the way, it is not at all certain that there will be a court hearing

Rhenish greetings
 

HilfeHilfe

2016-06-09 07:45:06
  • #5
I can understand the neighbors, but also you. You also have to ask yourself if you then build there as well, what will the neighborhood relationship be like and do you want the bad atmosphere too
 

Climbee

2016-06-09 08:25:58
  • #6
Thank you very much for the many responses!

Yes, we submitted the preliminary building inquiry in writing. Three binders, one for the municipality, one for the district office, one for the builder. So already a proper "forerunner" for the actual building application. Since we were initially told that no problems were to be expected, we wanted the authorities to receive as much information as possible in order to clarify any questions before the detailed planning.

So if I understood correctly, I must also receive a justified, written rejection, right? Within what time frame must this happen? I fear that this does not happen automatically and that I have to follow up (the meeting was four days ago, so on Monday).

The issue of deadlines is an interesting and very compelling reason for me to look for expert assistance as soon as possible (our architect himself says he has no legal knowledge; that is not his job after all).

Still, back to the question in the original post: after the justified written rejection (and our subsequent written objection), should I continue negotiating with the municipality or go directly to the higher building authority of the district office (only the district office can issue a building permit)?

And does anyone know a law firm in and around (west of) Munich that specializes in building law? I would also be grateful for tips here.

And one last remark about the neighbor:
He is simply angry because he did not expect that another house could be built there. I can basically understand that. Because the strip that my brother bought was initially offered to him, but with the note that he could enlarge his property with it but was not allowed to build on it. Since they could not buy under the local resident model at that time and already had enough financial obligations with purchase and construction, they declined.
My brother was then offered the land a little later as "building land." This is also noted in the purchase contract; it really says "building plot" on it. The then mayor told him (unfortunately only verbally, we were not on the ball to get that in writing): if you ever want to build a second house there, then we'll do that!

So I can understand that the neighbor is angry that the house is now going to be built there after all. But I cannot be held responsible for the varying statements of the municipality (another neighbor who also bought this strip was told something completely different; so the municipality spoke as they needed to at the time...).

On the other hand: he never uses the affected side of his garden; even the compost pile that was laid there years ago is rotting and falling apart. We fully comply with the required distances. And he will not be shaded by the new house either. We are talking about a southwest side here and before his property would be hit by the shadow our house would cast, there is already shade from existing trees there. In winter, no shadow would fall on the property from the house at all, in summer about half an hour before sunset. On the contrary, since we would probably prune or possibly also cut down one of the existing trees during construction, he would get significantly more sun.

And: nothing stays as it is. I know several cases where people were overjoyed to get an edge plot with an unobstructable view because no further building area would ever be designated there, and they now have a house in the fifth row because building did happen after all.
Such is life....
 

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