derelvis
2015-04-23 09:57:37
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It is not the first draft. It is also not primarily designed with the idea that we want to move completely to the ground floor, but we want to have the option.
Basically, the floor plan of the house is fixed. The L: living room/dining room kitchen are fixed because we want this location.
After that, we have to "recede" a bit because at least 12.5m are needed in the south for parking space, garage, and passage.
I posted the topic here to use the opinion of many eyes.
I realized this with the fireplace topic as well and will/have to come up with something for this.
Topic staircase:
This can easily be separated by extending the stairwell (masonry) and connecting it downwards to the kitchen corner.
The biggest topic here in the forum seems to be the bedroom downstairs: (Not at all for us anymore)
The minimum size for a bedroom with a double bed is currently 11-12m², exactly the size we have.
When viewing such a room, we found it good. For us, it’s not too small as a bedroom either.
At the moment it is planned as an additional room/office, which we definitely wanted anyway.
If someone sketches a better solution with the same living area downstairs, gladly.
Topic basement:
The main reason: We want the largest possible garden and at least 2 additional rooms with 15+m² for workshop, hobby, storage.
Additionally, a utility room and a basement, and the technology should also be accommodated somewhere. (Buffer storage).
Theoretically, you could enlarge the ground floor and attic by 20m² each to have the same area, but 1. that would be more expensive, and 2. less garden space.
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The kitchen connections/pipes go into the south children’s room. The 2 children’s rooms will be connected by a breakthrough and with a balcony to the west the living room/kitchen.
The staircase opens in this direction because both now and in the future there should be a small wardrobe on the left.
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That is probably a matter of opinion. I don’t like the "modern" single-family houses. We have looked at over 100 houses, and we just prefer it more in this direction.
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I probably have to address the fireplace topic, but we want it as a "room divider."
Adding an extra toilet upstairs is also an idea. I definitely want a separate toilet.
By the way, I have lived 25 years without a toilet in the bathroom and 10 years with. I definitely don’t need it.
:
Everyone basically wants approval first.
A pantry next to the kitchen would be an idea, but it’s not possible. We have thought about it more than enough.
"Modern single-family houses" often solve this with a 1-2m² pantry. That is not an option for us.
PS: The things we often need (e.g. pasta) will be in the apothecary cabinet.
The pantry is more for things you buy in stock or rarely need.
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The fireplace is connected to the heating circuit; otherwise, it would overheat the room completely.
Which compromises do you mean? It’s about weighing priorities and budget.
For us, the basement, garden area, location of living/dining room + kitchen, and a separable staircase have priority.
That’s why this draft came out. Surely the living room could also be reduced from 4 to 3.5 and meanwhile make 15m² bedroom downstairs.
But precisely that would bother us for the next 30+ years.
:
I don’t understand the limitation. For me, no room has a limitation except that the pantry is not directly next to the kitchen.
Basically, the floor plan of the house is fixed. The L: living room/dining room kitchen are fixed because we want this location.
After that, we have to "recede" a bit because at least 12.5m are needed in the south for parking space, garage, and passage.
I posted the topic here to use the opinion of many eyes.
I realized this with the fireplace topic as well and will/have to come up with something for this.
Topic staircase:
This can easily be separated by extending the stairwell (masonry) and connecting it downwards to the kitchen corner.
The biggest topic here in the forum seems to be the bedroom downstairs: (Not at all for us anymore)
The minimum size for a bedroom with a double bed is currently 11-12m², exactly the size we have.
When viewing such a room, we found it good. For us, it’s not too small as a bedroom either.
At the moment it is planned as an additional room/office, which we definitely wanted anyway.
If someone sketches a better solution with the same living area downstairs, gladly.
Topic basement:
The main reason: We want the largest possible garden and at least 2 additional rooms with 15+m² for workshop, hobby, storage.
Additionally, a utility room and a basement, and the technology should also be accommodated somewhere. (Buffer storage).
Theoretically, you could enlarge the ground floor and attic by 20m² each to have the same area, but 1. that would be more expensive, and 2. less garden space.
:
The kitchen connections/pipes go into the south children’s room. The 2 children’s rooms will be connected by a breakthrough and with a balcony to the west the living room/kitchen.
The staircase opens in this direction because both now and in the future there should be a small wardrobe on the left.
:
That is probably a matter of opinion. I don’t like the "modern" single-family houses. We have looked at over 100 houses, and we just prefer it more in this direction.
:
I probably have to address the fireplace topic, but we want it as a "room divider."
Adding an extra toilet upstairs is also an idea. I definitely want a separate toilet.
By the way, I have lived 25 years without a toilet in the bathroom and 10 years with. I definitely don’t need it.
:
Everyone basically wants approval first.
A pantry next to the kitchen would be an idea, but it’s not possible. We have thought about it more than enough.
"Modern single-family houses" often solve this with a 1-2m² pantry. That is not an option for us.
PS: The things we often need (e.g. pasta) will be in the apothecary cabinet.
The pantry is more for things you buy in stock or rarely need.
:
The fireplace is connected to the heating circuit; otherwise, it would overheat the room completely.
Which compromises do you mean? It’s about weighing priorities and budget.
For us, the basement, garden area, location of living/dining room + kitchen, and a separable staircase have priority.
That’s why this draft came out. Surely the living room could also be reduced from 4 to 3.5 and meanwhile make 15m² bedroom downstairs.
But precisely that would bother us for the next 30+ years.
:
I don’t understand the limitation. For me, no room has a limitation except that the pantry is not directly next to the kitchen.