Floor plan single-family house, 200m2, 2 full floors, garage, without basement

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-22 21:04:12

hanghaus2023

2023-02-23 13:22:22
  • #1
Just quickly from Bien-Zenker a variant with 200 sqm CONCEPT-M 170 Villingen-Schwenningen (is also a shed roof)
 

hanghaus2023

2023-02-23 13:25:49
  • #2


I wouldn't provide a urinal at all. But you are welcome to show how you would arrange it.
 

11ant

2023-02-23 13:33:05
  • #3
Well, I would actually do everything differently. Starting with not developing a plot the size of "at least five building lots" with a single-family house and leaving the treasure of unused land unexploited, even though it would be a "gamechanger" for the finances. And then of course I would not expect an architect, because that is a classic own goal (or an indispensable fool’s duty, depending on one’s point of view). Mind you, even I with over forty years of residential construction planning experience would never say to an architect "I already like it the way it is, just get it drawn." Even a specialist doctor gets a second opinion from a colleague when he himself needs surgery. My last encounter with Austrian forests is ages ago, but here I only see a single one of "several, very different" drafts – which at least makes it impossible to see a different view where we might find one of the others better in this or that respect or even more successful overall. If all previous drafts were created with floor plan software, that explains a lot – at least the limitation that narrowed the view so much that one now thinks it focused and optimally sharpened. Professional floor plan planning NEVER starts with a drawing, but with a room program created using one of several methods and then qualified, i.e., rooms are assigned location properties, relationships, and sizes; afterwards, the rooms are allocated to building levels. And mind you: the floor plan planning itself is not the start of the design process. I don’t know Austrian customs here, but something like the HOAI, which we Germans have, you probably have as well, so that methodically no master of architecture is left to his own devices. I may not link it here, but googling with quotes "Ein Hausbau-Fahrplan, auch für Sie: das Phasenmodell der HOAI!" should find it easily. I don’t advise in Austria myself and only have one architect contact in the Salzburg area. From my point of view, it is "a violation of the Hippocratic oath" of a builder when a fully qualified architect is willing to swap places with the client and allow himself to be used as a sign servant and rubber stamper. As a discussant of the concrete design, I lack practically all relevant basics: the site plan excerpt is deficient in multiple ways (too small-scale, without any elevation data). And I do not believe in the generosity of the municipality without any foundations – even in a small village, the fire chief/priest/mayor does not just approve everything because the apricot schnapps is good ;-)
 

Schorsch_baut

2023-02-23 13:53:20
  • #4
Well, just like your suggestion but swapping only the toilet and urinal. That should also fit in terms of space if the sink is planned to be only 40-50 cm wide.
 

ypg

2023-02-23 13:53:42
  • #5

I also didn’t criticize the staircase landing itself, but that it is so built in. It is not central, it is located to the side of the hallway and according to the drawing, it is simply there and hiding. Since a staircase plays an important role in a single-family house, you should somehow be able to sense it when entering the house, as many paths also lead upstairs immediately.

I didn’t say anything against long houses either. It’s not just black and white when the saturation of black is criticized.
There are many long houses that are a bit friendlier, also with a staircase in the hallway and without echo.
In principle, a straight staircase fits better in a narrow house. This naturally results in a different hallway structure.

The question is nonsense. Moving a chair or a dresser to another floor once in a while is not uncommon. The 2-meter ladder or carrying the sleeping child to bed…

As I said: it’s not just black and white, you combine elements, and in the planning there is more than one way to equip a long house with a long hallway, to permanently keep out the sun by means of an extreme canopy, and so on.

You are the one who used that word.


.. and now the architect is supposed to draw your trees, even though you, as you yourself say, were overwhelmed?!
Let’s just take the architectural highlight of this house, namely the cubature: here you can immediately see that the layman doesn’t know how to use projections, overhangs, or other facade design to reduce the massiveness or clumsiness.
The architect is not even asked whether everything could be designed nicer – he simply draws your trees and at the end of the day trees come out, but no forest, even though with many rehearsed elements and knowledge of how it could be better realized, a great house, i.e. a beautiful forest, could be designed. But you don’t ask for that at all. You provide the architect with trees and he draws trees. And if you now also want to make the architect change the forum knowledge, then as a mere draftsman he will no longer want to provide his knowledge to you.

For the layman, a forest consists of trees; for the expert, it consists of different planting up to clearings and terrain modeling, stones, etc., so that the residents feel comfortable there in many situations.
 

hausbauer_93

2023-02-23 13:55:08
  • #6


cool! thanks the layout is actually pretty similar to ours. is the dishwasher next to the oven? Was it perfectly positioned for you or would you do it differently? Is it too far from the sink?
 

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