Floor plan options single-family house 130-150 sqm, 1.5 stories, hillside location

The property currently doesn't remind me of Chris, but of … , do you remember Ariba Aribus or something like that? She also had a property like that. I had successfully planned a study and, on request, super small children's rooms in the basement for her. Pregnant Anna was a nature lover with many children and a family bed… I still had her as a contact on FB… from the garden side, it was a bungalow. We had advised her to have a permanent staircase to the attic, but her husband didn't want to. Her garden exit went out north from the kitchen. She also had a piano without a zigzag wall :)

At the moment, the plot doesn’t remind me of Chris, but rather of … @11ant, do you remember Ariba Aribus or something like that? She also had such a plot. I successfully planned a study and, on request, very small children's rooms in the basement for her.

You probably mean (but when it comes to piano, I only think of , and that again connects with his "specialty" zigzag wall). A piano played only the role of a piece of furniture to be considered for her, but in his discussion also a "supporting" role, which reminded of the Loriot sketch.

Exactly! Arifas! Thanks to you, you elephant brain ;) There are almost more pieces of furniture than a piano... therefore unimportant. That's what I wanted to say! Nevertheless, our Arifas, without searching through the thread now, had exactly the same problems... even already had some children and not just planned ;) I was partly allowed to still see the house finished and have some insights :D

Thank you very much, these are exactly the questioning and challenging suggestions that help to broaden one’s own tunnel vision a bit. I hardly have time right now and therefore won’t start a quoting event, but I want to briefly address a few points (I might also see some things wrongly, so please feel free to correct me again):

- If I ever become a person who gets annoyed about a trampoline or another children’s facility on a neighboring property, I don’t want to consider that future self – I can’t cover every potential character development of mine. Well, maybe I’ll be annoyed with my current self at some point, I hope I find this forum post again then :D
- Due to the central location of the building window, one really has to consider well in which direction the use of the property should predominantly take place. The south brings 3 disadvantages: car parking spaces (min. 2 mandatory), close to the street and roughly at its level, lowest point and thus worst view or directly the next house on the other side of the street. If a terrace or something like that is to be placed there, there is little space left for a garden. Since there will only be meadow and forest behind the property (north), it seemed sensible so far to use this area as the main garden.
- Regarding a "more exciting" basement use: Since the basement as the lowest floor also benefits the least from the hillside view, it is nice to be able to use it freestanding, but qualitatively it is still not as valuable as the ground floor. Standing 3 meters higher in the all-room (thanks, I didn’t know that word) already makes quite a difference – valley view versus street and the next house wall? But I will nevertheless take the suggestion to bed again; we stumbled over it from time to time but all ideas seemed even more “wasted” so far. Additionally, the side entrance offers itself, but that is already half the way to “walking around the house to get in” – doesn’t feel right (okay, that might be a minor problem). And how does it feel if no light at all (or just light shafts) comes into the residential basement from the back? Okay, I realized it myself: currently, daylight only comes from a small stairwell window from the north into the all-room. But at least quite a bit from the sides, which would be more difficult in the residential basement and a considerable compromise especially for the kitchen.
- Exit to the (north) garden via own door at the back would certainly be a gain in comfort compared to the terrace, but it will be difficult without enlarging the floor plan (or giving up space). It didn’t seem important enough to us, but this point would certainly have the potential for later regret.
- Regarding the sauna: I think we simply prioritize the sauna room differently – conversely, a terrace for me is just a “well, then you can also eat outside,” I currently wouldn’t know how this could take on the significance of a focal point of life.

Not impossible that I’m wrong, I hope my future self forgives my naivety (and thanks for correcting it a bit). :)

Here is a suggestion. With ground floor and upper floor without basement or only partial basement, with access from the CP, behind the carport.



The greened roof of the CP at 920.3 as well as the leveled terrain. Top edge of the finished floor then 920.5

Retaining wall on the western property boundary tapering from 2.0 to 0 m.

The house can then be a bit larger.

Retaining wall in the north from 0.5 to 1 m

Here is a suggestion. With ground floor and upper floor without a basement or only a partial basement, with access from the carport, behind the carport.

Thank you very much, an interesting suggestion, even though I am somewhat reluctant to level out the slope largely – but that can also be designed differently. For understanding: Did you imagine the gray area as a terrace, i.e., set apart from the house, near the street but higher than it?

Sure, 2 large floors sound better than 3 small ones, especially if you place them at the height of the 2 upper ones (and thus don’t lose height). However, any consideration in that direction was always rejected immediately because – especially due to the basement rule – it is questionable how much budget becomes available for a larger house by saving on the basement.

Maybe we dismissed it too quickly, and it may be that the basement rule refers to a comparison between a slab on grade and an uninsulated basement (does it?), but roughly estimated, an insulated basement costs about ± 90k€. Even if a slab on grade were only half as expensive (and apparently it is not, according to the basement rule), at best 45k€ would be freed up – with a minimum of 3000€/sqm, the house could thus be 15 sqm larger, i.e., 7.5 sqm per floor. Well, that’s not enough to replace the missing basement. Or am I calculating this completely wrong? ;)

I don’t want to speak ill of it; 2 large floors would be great, and I prefer living in normal walls rather than concrete, but I quickly gained the impression here in the forum that with a financially tight budget, it makes no sense to “save” the basement in this slope location – and therefore that direction was never pursued further. Am I wrong?