Floor plan of single-family house approximately 145 sqm with west access

  • Erstellt am 2025-01-28 23:08:13

Murmele305

2025-01-29 20:32:33
  • #1
Thank you very much for your numerous feedbacks.



Attached are some more points from the questionnaire. I have also attached a site plan.

Development plan/Restrictions
Requirements:


Floor area ratio: 1.2
Plot ratio: 0.4
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 mandatory
Maximum heights/limits: Gable roof 5.60 m
Further requirements: EH40+ is a requirement due to our application for the building plot

Client requirements:

Number of people, age: currently 3 people (36, 33, 1)
Open or closed architecture: open architecture
Conservative or modern construction: somewhere in between
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen with cooking island
Number of dining seats: 3

Price estimate according to architect: 650,000 Euro



A canopy will probably only be above the entrance in the end, since as you already said, that is the imbalance.

We also find the sofa landscape not quite optimal with the window behind it. However, we do not really want to remove the window since it is the south side. Another furniture layout has not come to us yet since having a TV in the living room is important to us.

Our architect also informed us about the requirements for the door in the upper floor today.



The columns under the garage are necessary according to the structural engineer.



The shape of the sofa is not fixed yet. All furniture will be newly purchased here. The view from the window faces the street. However, it is 6 meters to the end of the property and we would like to nicely design the garden there.
Regarding the depth of the window sill, shouldn't it be about 60 cm deep to really be able to sit properly?
The TV is on every evening for us. During the day, no.



Thank you very much for your many suggestions regarding the office. Does it not look strange on the upper floor if the wall under a visible roof truss does not lie under the ridge purlin? The office was only a consideration for us.
You went to 1.01 m at the entrance to the living room, right? We have also already considered whether the passages into the kitchen and living room should be larger.



The maximum 145 m² result from residential space funding. We are not allowed to build bigger here. The rooms in the basement are designated as basement because according to BayBO they are nothing else.
Basement 1 is a storage room / wine cellar / utility room. Basements 2 and 3 might still be merged. A cinema and video game room are planned here.

We have an appointment for the bathroom sample selection soon. A proper plan will be created then.

I partly agree with you about the 18 sqm children's rooms. However, the children can retreat here and may spend a lot of time there. My room was that big back then and I thought it was great.



We like a panoramic fireplace in the living room. We want it purely as a style element and not for heating.



The planning is done by a freelance architect and the basement is important to us because of our hobbies. The pile foundation comes from the structural engineer. There will be a separate planning for the bathroom. We have an appointment for sample selection soon. EH40+ is unfortunately mandatory due to our application for the plot.
Why should a visible roof truss be a saving measure? I have also attached a site plan.

I hope I did not overlook answering anything significant.
 

kbt09

2025-01-29 20:59:33
  • #2
For the house layout, I would swap the kitchen and living area and do without the seating window. Especially since it is supposed to be built inward.
 

Arauki11

2025-01-29 23:25:12
  • #3


But that is exactly something you should actually plan, preferably at least with some possible furniture shapes or their arrangement. After that, for example, the windows should be arranged accordingly. I read that the TV in the living room plays a big role, so it should be possible to plan a suitably cozy situation specifically for that.
Although I also read this:

Are there supposed to be two of those then? Maybe there is also the option to put the TV completely in the basement and use the living room rather for living without a TV? As I have already mentioned before, there is too much randomness involved in my opinion, where more planning should be in place regarding the use of the rooms. I would build it first and then see... I would recommend that less.

But it is at least partially predetermined by the heavy use of the TV, at least as far as windows are concerned; the TV theme already has an influence there.

I don’t know the current funding options now, but I would never build a house or adjust it primarily just because it wants a subsidy from me. Building a house should always also be possible without subsidies in case something doesn’t work out, but digging an expensive basement into the shallow ground just to then have a lot of empty space there with which I might do something someday that I don’t really need, that would never occur to me.
Maybe someone can enlighten me here with an approximate amount and € that this 145sqm living space subsidy saves. I cannot imagine that it outweighs the additional costs compared to a larger house without a basement and you still have the rather uncomfortable basement as space.
We also received funding through KfW40+ but we wanted to insulate so well anyway and would have implemented it similarly without funding.

...I thought TV/video in one room or what is that, if I may ask?

Costs money but will be worth it for the living comfort, a well-insulated house brings conveniences, as I myself can experience.

Well, "style element" probably less so, as reading a definition of that will show you. In combination with underfloor heating/heat pump it is at least considered by many participants here as rather contradictory elements. It takes up space, both the fireplace itself and the unit, and takes money away from where you might really need it. Seating furniture, dining room, kitchen, cinema room, etc., if they are of quality, are expensive... I would be more cautious with such gimmicks, especially since the outdoor facilities will cost you even more money than you hope (this happens to most).
Buying an expensive (if it is supposed to be nice) fireplace and then not using it for heating? Are you serious? Spending such amounts? Buy yourselves nice, valuable pictures, afford art in the living room, quality in seating or other furniture or beautiful interior doors, lights, etc. but not an expensive masonry fireplace with panoramic fireplace just to then not even use it for heating, i.e. its very own purpose? The poor thing will get depressed standing around like that.
On the other hand, I find an exposed roof truss stylish; if the purlin feels like it is lying next to it, that doesn’t matter, we have that here too.
 

Arauki11

2025-01-29 23:29:17
  • #4

No. Measure the seat height of a chair, usually around 45cm, and in my opinion such a bench could also be around 40cm. But only if I really like to look outside. Ultimately, something like that is a gimmick and purely a matter of taste.
 

K a t j a

2025-01-30 05:47:52
  • #5

Is that a typo or how should it be interpreted?
I would also be interested in the details that make a pile foundation necessary. How does that relate to the basement?

Regarding the floor plan: I still find it quite okay. The children’s room doors with a mini hallway upstairs are of course nonsense, but that is quickly corrected. I would also swap the kitchen with the living room.

Your needs are unclear and you hardly manage to answer the questions here, as can be seen from the shortened questionnaire.
If only 1 child needs a room, why is an additional office still required? The 2nd children's room is sufficient for that.

I find the double garage really inappropriate. On the tiny plot, a massive space eater. I would ask again whether a carport closer to the street might be an option. Then the house could be moved further to the right and more of the garden would remain + a greater distance of the terrace to the neighbor.
 

Murmele305

2025-01-30 11:34:49
  • #6


We considered that at the beginning of the planning as well. But our daily life mostly takes place in the living area in the evening. We almost always cook at lunchtime, and in the evening only prepare a snack in the kitchen. That’s why the kitchen is oriented to the east. In the afternoon, we then have sun in the living area from the west where we spend time.



Regarding the TV, one will also be set up in the living room. We will try to play around a bit here with a furnishing program. Are there any recommendations here?

With the funding, it would be about a difference of €130,000 assuming an interest rate fixation of 3% over 30 years.

The hobby was the video game room and cinema room. That requires a lot of space and we mostly already own the equipment. It was always my wish to accommodate something like that in my house.

The fireplace is intended to be used in winter or late autumn.

Good to know about the purlin.



Good tip with the seat depth. We will discuss that again if a window seat should be included.



There was a number transposition. This is correct:

Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor space index: 1.2

I cannot say about the pile foundation. Our architect had the structural engineer calculate it and that was the result. There is also a soil report.

We have already tried some things upstairs. But we did not get a proper layout that we liked. Then came the thing with the mini hallway.

Our room needs on the upper floor are: bathroom, bedroom, 2 children’s rooms (family planning is not yet finalized)
On the ground floor: living, dining, cooking, shower/WC
Basement: utility room, hobby, storage/pantry/wine cellar

Office was just a thought as I occasionally work from home. However, an office is not really necessary here.

We wanted a double garage because we have two cars and both start work early. Also, we get a lot of snow in winter as we live in the Allgäu.
Furthermore, two parking spaces on the property have to be proven and parking one behind the other is very impractical for us.
A carport closer to the street is not possible. We have to keep the 6 meters. We have already talked to the city about this.
Adjacent to our garden, the neighbor also has a garage with boundary development.
 

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