Floor plan of a 2-full-storey single-family house with approximately 160 m² living area

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BetaVersion

2025-05-27 18:16:53
  • #1
Thank you very much for your experiences.

Regarding the bay window, we might still look around in terms of costs - we are already curious.

apparently you mixed up the cardinal directions in our case East and West. Nevertheless, thank you for your thoughts on this. I assume that the lights would be on anyway in the study rooms, as is currently the case in my home office (east-facing) and also at work in the office the sensor is constantly turning on because the brightness is often simply no longer sufficient - despite a huge glass front. The bedroom would get morning sun and the en-suite evening sun. For doing homework for the children, one of the study rooms would certainly also be frequently available.

What exactly do you mean by your "reference to the justified suspicion of adopted setback areas"?

thank you for your suggestion regarding the utility room on the upper floor - it would definitely be helpful. But wouldn’t two showers for 4 people be somewhat comfortable?

Best regards BetaVersion
 

wiltshire

2025-05-27 18:47:17
  • #2
yes, I did. That's what happens when you sit lazily in front of the computer. For sleeping and bathroom, it makes much more sense. We get the morning sun through a window (we even took a round one for that) directly onto our bed. It's wonderful, and if it's too bright too early, there's a curtain you shouldn't forget to close the night before (analog house). Regarding the bay window price: makes sense at about 7sqm for around 20k€. Whether that's "too expensive" or not depends somewhat on your financial flexibility. Such gimmicks add up. But if it's a big wish and at the same time the budget is a bit tight, I would rather implement the bay window and postpone building the carport to ease the financial burden. You won't build the bay window later. If you're tightening the house financing to the limit, forget the bay window.
 

MachsSelbst

2025-05-27 19:22:26
  • #3
10m² children's room maybe if the children are only there over the weekend. Otherwise at least 12m², better 14-15. 18 and upwards is then already exaggerated. 10 is, by today's standards, cage keeping...

But then 12m² dressing room... yeah yeah.
 

ypg

2025-05-27 19:28:29
  • #4
The best thing about §34 is to set the red-light district as an aerial image to see how the neighbors have built. You have to adapt to them with certain parameters.

However, I must say that 1. the staircase on the ground floor is not identical to the staircase on the upper floor: on the ground floor it is supposed to have 243 cm distance from the outer wall, but upstairs it is about 170 cm or less. Actually quite easy to recognize at first glance. Then the "important" load-bearing walls parallel to the staircase are not aligned above each other. You can do this with additional structural effort or use lightweight walls upstairs. Just a hint.



But I think you have no idea what you actually drew?! You have a corridor that is dark, and apart from the front door there is no light. The two long corridors next to the staircase are over 3 meters long. That is already top-level in misunderstanding openness. They are and remain two long narrow corridors that reinterpret the word "openness." There is nothing modern about such tubes either. Our old farmhouses were designed like this. Although their staircase is somewhat more on one side, your doubling does not make it better. And then let's look at the upper floor: while the type house, which serves as a template, at least still has one side of the staircase with an open railing, you have walls on both sides there. That would be a third tube, which you certainly don't want if you want it open. The crowning achievement, however, is the void space. It is walled in on the upper floor (not in the template house). This causes it not to be loud upstairs, but the corridor also cannot benefit from light: it simply has none.

So you can say: the first impression is gloomy and confined by walls. The walls are good for nothing, they elongate the building shape and confine.

But you also leave no mistake unmade: garage in the south at the same level as the house, but then with an overhang at the terrace to block light again. Carport then at the other corner... You leave no blunder out.

Well, if openness is so important to you, you will regret this house. Yes!

Here again. So, it may be thoughtlessness that you drew it this way. But it really would be a tragedy if a general contractor tells you that he can build it this way, then has it redrawn for a building application, and during the shell construction you recognize your disaster for which you are responsible.

About the house/plot itself: wrong house shape, in my opinion. On this elongated plot with east orientation, an elongated house would be more welcome. Double garage or combo in the southwest corner so that the plot is sufficiently shielded from the ugly wall and sunlight comes into the house here. The ugly wall can be clad on your own property or planted green, it's not rocket science. This brings air and brightness into the house, even in winter, and that regulates openness. If you then add a window that illuminates living rooms from the west, there is enough openness. A staircase placed as a barrier in the middle of the house is again counterproductive. It blocks light instead of letting it through. Or place the garage in the northwest and build a cubature alternating between one and two stories, where the garage is integrated so that there is enough area facing south.

A house will not become Bauhaus just because you give the cubature a simple form. I simply assume that you like modern flat-roof houses. But they do not grow in aesthetics with the cube form, but rather with offsets, overhangs, and a play of one- and two-story cubatures that visually form a unit.

P.S. I count almost 90 sqm on the ground floor. What was the budget again?
 

nordanney

2025-05-27 19:59:13
  • #5
No. What are the "today's standards" you can name? Standards for me are happy children. And they don't measure their happiness in sqm, but in a happy childhood, family, friendships. Playing today is very different than in my time. Only for a few years are small children the same as before (but are showered with much more toys). P.S. By the way, in the past there was a DIN that prescribed 8.5sqm for a children's room. Unbelievable in today's times, where according to surveys parents rather wish for 16-20sqm for the child.
 

BetaVersion

2025-05-27 20:35:01
  • #6
Good evening again everyone and thank you for all the contributions.

Unfortunately, our drawing is misleading, sorry. Both the airspace towards the gallery should of course be open or only separated by a railing, and the right wall of the staircase on the upper floor should only be half-height – similar to the original floor plan. This way, especially the upper hallway has much more daylight. By the way, the first three steps of the staircase on the ground floor extend into the hallway, which is why the stairs on the ground floor and upper floor appear offset. By opening the two "tubes" on the ground floor, we thought they would at least be brighter than in the original floor plan, where the entrance area is separated by two doors.

Currently, we are favoring the town villa building style over the Bauhaus style, where additional storage space can also be provided in the attic. The size of the dressing room is currently more due to the general layout on the upper floor. Does anyone have an idea how the children's rooms could be made larger while the parents' area is reduced? After all, the dressing room would also store the children's clothes (e.g., winter clothes in summer), so there would be more space in the children's rooms on the other side.

Have a nice evening everyone!
 

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