Janne01
2024-10-22 23:37:35
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Hello everyone,
I have been reading in the forum for quite some time and am amazed by how much information and tips are shared here. If I may, I would also like to hear your opinions and assessments about our project.
We are still in the planning phase and have had initial discussions with our architects. The information basis is therefore limited. Nevertheless, I would already like to receive feedback from you now on what we should definitely pay attention to, what you think is realistic, etc.
About the project: We have purchased a plot of land in [Tuscany] (10,500 sqm) on the slope of a hill (I would say moderate slope / with an incline of 2m over the area on which the house is to be built), with a view into the valley of a small town and the hills of [Tuscany] and want to build a house there. The plot faces north-east. The house (and later a small separate studio as well as a pool) should become a focal point for the whole family. The architects have already created initial floor plan drafts and have also consulted with the responsible authorities regarding size and construction method to ensure that the volume can be built in this manner. An official building permit has not yet been issued. It is still too early in the process for that.
I have attached a topographic map with the positioning of the house, as the architects deemed it most sensible, especially regarding the view (direction north-east). There is another house nearby that is already connected to electricity and water. The water is sourced from a spring. The pipes run along the lower side of our plot. This means that the water must be brought uphill to the house (height difference about 7m).
We are hiring the architects for the entire process, including tendering, comparison of offers, acceptance of the work, construction management, site management, submitting applications, dealing with authorities … really everything, as we are not on site. The architects are rooted in the region and have carried out many projects there (for private clients, hotels, municipalities). The architects want EUR 80,000 plus VAT for the complete service. In total about EUR 100,000 gross. This also includes structural engineers, soil survey (already available), surveying, etc. They design the main house, studio, and outdoor facilities. However, due to budget restrictions, only the main house will be built initially.
Budget: For the house, including earthworks, foundation slab, incidental costs, taxes, outdoor area (only the immediate surroundings of the house), we communicated a budget of EUR 540,000 to the architects. The house has a floor area of about 175 sqm over two floors. We want to build the house by separate contract awards. The architect believes that he can realize the project about 20-30% cheaper compared to an "all-in-one turnkey" contract. However, he wants to obtain such a comparable offer to verify this. He mentioned Rubner as a potential house builder.
How do you assess the costs for the architects? How do you assess the project cost-wise, where do you see aspects we need to keep an eye on? What do you think of the floor plan? I wonder if there is enough storage space. Maybe still a clearly too early detail, but would you install air conditioning, and is a pergola sufficient on the north-east side for shading the kitchen/living area, or would you recommend shutters or venetian blinds?
Thank you very much for your help already
I have been reading in the forum for quite some time and am amazed by how much information and tips are shared here. If I may, I would also like to hear your opinions and assessments about our project.
We are still in the planning phase and have had initial discussions with our architects. The information basis is therefore limited. Nevertheless, I would already like to receive feedback from you now on what we should definitely pay attention to, what you think is realistic, etc.
About the project: We have purchased a plot of land in [Tuscany] (10,500 sqm) on the slope of a hill (I would say moderate slope / with an incline of 2m over the area on which the house is to be built), with a view into the valley of a small town and the hills of [Tuscany] and want to build a house there. The plot faces north-east. The house (and later a small separate studio as well as a pool) should become a focal point for the whole family. The architects have already created initial floor plan drafts and have also consulted with the responsible authorities regarding size and construction method to ensure that the volume can be built in this manner. An official building permit has not yet been issued. It is still too early in the process for that.
I have attached a topographic map with the positioning of the house, as the architects deemed it most sensible, especially regarding the view (direction north-east). There is another house nearby that is already connected to electricity and water. The water is sourced from a spring. The pipes run along the lower side of our plot. This means that the water must be brought uphill to the house (height difference about 7m).
We are hiring the architects for the entire process, including tendering, comparison of offers, acceptance of the work, construction management, site management, submitting applications, dealing with authorities … really everything, as we are not on site. The architects are rooted in the region and have carried out many projects there (for private clients, hotels, municipalities). The architects want EUR 80,000 plus VAT for the complete service. In total about EUR 100,000 gross. This also includes structural engineers, soil survey (already available), surveying, etc. They design the main house, studio, and outdoor facilities. However, due to budget restrictions, only the main house will be built initially.
Budget: For the house, including earthworks, foundation slab, incidental costs, taxes, outdoor area (only the immediate surroundings of the house), we communicated a budget of EUR 540,000 to the architects. The house has a floor area of about 175 sqm over two floors. We want to build the house by separate contract awards. The architect believes that he can realize the project about 20-30% cheaper compared to an "all-in-one turnkey" contract. However, he wants to obtain such a comparable offer to verify this. He mentioned Rubner as a potential house builder.
How do you assess the costs for the architects? How do you assess the project cost-wise, where do you see aspects we need to keep an eye on? What do you think of the floor plan? I wonder if there is enough storage space. Maybe still a clearly too early detail, but would you install air conditioning, and is a pergola sufficient on the north-east side for shading the kitchen/living area, or would you recommend shutters or venetian blinds?
Thank you very much for your help already