First conversation with the developer - first numbers...

What is this actually still about?

For me, the question is what does a functioning house with minimum standards for 5 people from Town & Country cost.

I'm out of here. I also don't feel like spending my free time dealing with what others find ridiculous about what I write, although they obviously haven't properly read my posts.

Dear OP, all the best for your project!

Dear ones, thank you very much for your opinions, advice, and information. I am very grateful for every single tip; this is the only way to reach the goal and gain experience. I also understood that it is too small for 5 people! As already described, we are also getting an impression on site in the model house and will request offers for more square meters. Town & Country recommended at least 6 m2 for the utility room without us having mentioned it, and we want to follow that recommendation. It was the first offer; I simply cared about the calculated numbers and the quality. We already knew that at least another €10,000 would have to be invested in the fittings. The garage that we plan to build later will be financed with equity. Regarding the material costs for painting and flooring and for the material costs outdoors, I really have no feeling for what to estimate. Outdoors, we want a terrace and possibly a driveway with gravel or something like that; we are not sure yet and mostly lawn. Everything else over time (like fence, planting, etc.) when we have saved again (and yes, we will still save despite installments and special repayments). €5,000 are obviously also too tight, so Town & Country, please do a good calculation.

I'm out here. I also have no desire to spend my free time dealing with what others find ridiculous about what I write, even though they obviously haven't read my posts properly. Dear OP, all the best for your project!

Thank you, all the best to you too

Town & Country is of course also located in the low price segment,

In the low requirement segment that fits.

Just because you want to build down-to-earth and reasonable, it doesn’t have to be a run-of-the-mill house.

I also meant that neutrally. You don’t have to desperately want the only frog-green barrel roof house on your street to be “individual.” And it’s okay if there is a “Golf” as a house too.

For three children’s rooms, I would rather ask for the prices of the Lichthaus 152.

Yes, at least the price difference to the “one size bigger catalog house” I would budget as a special request for customizations – if not build an individual design with them straight away. The fact that one- to two-child families are “standard” in Germany means two possibilities for families with three children: namely, catalog house designs only fit if they are either planned for three-child families or if they have an extra joker room (the latter is almost excluded in the 120 sqm segment). Where a walk-in closet is planned – even though shown as an office in the example, probably so the large window doesn’t look out of place – you can’t just repurpose it like that. And squeezing another room in by interpreting a partition wall as a “visitor crack” and stealing one and a half meters width on each side from the rooms unfortunately also causes the floor plan to stop working. Because, whether “Flair” or “Lichthaus”: in the 120 sqm segment there is nowhere a fat area that you could siphon off. And where a walk-in closet is planned, the bedroom is also not designed to accommodate a large wardrobe as a classic full bedroom. Climbing up to the attic for everyday clothes is hardly something people want to do. So, however you look at it, with one “more” child it automatically means, in my opinion, a bigger house model.

Yes, we will also get an offer for more square meters.

Whereas the jump to the next larger basic model is often more economical than enlarging a model – not least because the cheaper variant of enlargement (= linear along the ridge direction) often only works moderately efficiently with a clever floor plan layout.

HAR, where the technology has already been deducted (which alone requires 5 sqm – at least!)

Boiler with maintenance zone, distributor plus electrician’s backflow zone, a drying rack, then with 5 sqm the door just barely opens.

Do they have stickier mortar? Or better stones? Or more cement in the screed? Or a noble PVC for the windows? Or stainless steel gutters? Or mahogany roof trusses?

Gluten-free organic mortar, I don’t think so either – I believe the only thing more expensive there is actually the price.

If you have a small house with a basement, then that is something completely different than if only a utility room is available. In the basement, there may be food supplies and plenty of drinks, tools, cleaning supplies, washing machine and dryer, children's toys, etc. Therefore, you need to plan some space somewhere if you are planning without a basement. You can certainly live in a very small space with many children, the only question is whether you want to restrict yourself like that. It's no fun either if you always have to think about where to store your cleaning supplies, laundry baskets, tools because it is simply too tight.

Best regards
Sabine