Financing construction of a single-family house in Southern Germany, 180m²

Hmh, either the municipal utility guys are stupid, or they want to fool you. This is a water-water heat pump, not brine!! And on top of that not an inverter_machine, which makes it even worse. Give up, have someone build it who still feels the friction heat weeks later, because they got slowly ripped off...

There are also geothermal heat pumps suitable for cold local heating. Basically, it's nothing different from a trench collector that I would otherwise bury on my own property, right? Am I missing something?

They also exist as geothermal heat pumps suitable for cold local heating.

Well, for me, there is what can be seen on the homepage. Maybe I'm just too dumb and can't find it. There should also be something current in German about it. Otherwise, it's old junk that someone still wants to get rid of. And, as already said, with a fixed 6 kW, it gets even more complicated with today's houses.. Plus refrigerants, FGaseVO says hello.

By the way, how are the other conditions? Connection costs, basic fees, heat pump, etc. etc. In the parallel thread, someone pays (or is supposed to pay) 300 euros a month, plus down payment etc.

So, for me, there is what can be seen on the homepage. Maybe I'm just too stupid and can't find it. There should also be something current in German about it. Otherwise, it’s just old junk that someone still wants to get rid of. And, as already said, fixed at 6 kW, it gets even more complicated with today’s houses... On top of that, refrigerants, FGaseVO says hello. By the way, what about the other conditions? Connection costs, basic fees, heat pump, etc., etc. In the parallel thread, someone pays (or is supposed to pay) 300 euros a month, plus AK and so on.

You are completely right, nothing can be found on the website. There is neither info about basic prices/consumption prices nor connection cost info. That really annoys me about the whole thing, how it’s going on in Germany nowadays. We have been looking for a plot of land for 10 years. In our early 20s, we didn’t have enough money. Then prices skyrocketed, then war, raw material prices... Here, someone is just trying to squeeze the little citizen again and milk them dry until the end. It’s not about doing something good for the climate. It’s all made up and a lie. It’s simply the first chance in 10 years to get a plot of land. But I’m still realistic enough and question every line in the development plan. I think many are blindly running into an open knife. I want to avoid that.

By the way, how are the other conditions? Connection costs, basic fees, heat pump, etc., etc. In the parallel thread someone is paying (or supposed to pay) 300 euros per month, plus AK and so on.

https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/kaltes-nahwaermenetz-neubaugebiet-anschlussleitung.46730/

You are absolutely right, there is nothing to be found on the website. There is neither information on basic prices/consumption prices nor on connection costs. [...] Here someone is just trying to take advantage of the little citizen again.

Lack of transparency is only a small part of what worries me here. I see more of a time bomb: soon someone will sue the local heat sellers (and the municipalities with corresponding connection obligations) in “Europe,” claiming that this must at least be subject to a normative review under consumer protection law. After all, with such supply contracts one has no access to offers for forwarded deliveries from other suppliers. If this is successfully challenged, the profitability for the respective operators will burst, the networks will be abandoned, and the poor homeowners might be left with a fully functional own “boiler” for too small technical rooms. That won’t be funny.

It’s just the first chance in 10 years to get a plot.

You know where to find me since at the latest , but you still haven’t contacted me. As far as I’m concerned, take your time (but in seventeen years I intend to retire—depending on when grandchildren come, maybe earlier).

Lack of transparency is only a small part of what worries me. I rather see a time bomb: soon someone will sue the district heating providers (and the municipalities with corresponding connection obligations) in "Europe," demanding that this must be subjected to at least a conformity review under consumer protection law. After all, with such supply contracts, there is no access to offers for through deliveries from other suppliers. If this is successfully challenged, the profitability for the respective operators will collapse, the networks will be abandoned, and the poor homeowners will be left with possibly too small technical rooms for a fully functional own "boiler." That won’t be fun.

I doubt that. The end justifies the means, as is well known, and in the last few years we have drifted from change to crisis and catastrophe. All these stories with heating networks only make sense if almost all houses in the area are connected. Ergo, the connection obligation will be put on a better legal footing, and then it will continue.

This whole situation about how things are going in Germany nowadays really irritates me. We have been searching for a piece of land for 10 years. In our early twenties we didn’t have enough money. Then prices soared into the stratosphere, then war, raw material prices ... Here, someone is just trying to squeeze the little citizen dry until the end again. It’s not about doing something good for the climate. It’s all fabricated and lies. It’s just the first chance in 10 years to get a piece of land.

I can understand the frustration... on the other hand: you already have a house. Even with a basement, which most builders nowadays only dream of. 125 sqm of living space is a good size, both with and without children.
And don’t try to explain things with malice what can be explained by incompetence. Who among the municipal councils even knows what a modulating heat pump is? They’re trying to keep up with the latest eco trend, and such a cold district heating network sounds pretty good at first.

And don’t try to explain what can be explained by incompetence with malice. Which of the council members actually knows what a modulating heat pump is? They try to follow the latest eco-trend, and such a cold local heating network sounds really good at first.

That’s how it is. The cold local heating network is not inherently bad. But, as usual, many want to profit from it. The council members rely on the municipal utilities, of course hoping to get a piece of the pie, and the municipal utilities are, well, the experts you have to listen to at first.

What bothers me is the restrictive contract that must be signed with a manufacturer xy. Actually, this is just a small part in the big swamp of manufacturers. You always wonder how this happens. Of course, I don’t want to accuse anyone of anything bad, but the question is justified. Especially when you look at what kind of cans are supposed to be installed. Moreover, the parent company actually has a pump in their portfolio that would be perfectly suitable. That way, it gives the impression that they want to get rid of old equipment from the clearance stock and have found a sucker.