Experiences with infrared heaters

I am not familiar with something like that. Our modules are turned on and off by the thermostat; there is no gradation, and I believe it doesn’t need to be. At first, I frequently measured with the "temperature gun" to see when which module kicks in.

I just wanted to express that there is a "direct 1:1 transfer," as the heat output acts directly on the body and does not first warm the ambient air or the building mass (floor).
A thermostat is of course optimal, but this couldn’t be inferred from your previous descriptions, since you always talked about "if I feel like it, I just turn it on/higher" :)

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Sorry, saw it too late... Now I am online, yes!

It may be that I wrote it more offhandedly each time, sorry. For example, in the open area, we grouped 3 elements on the ceiling together and for that there is a thermostat on the wall, as I had before with the underfloor heating. Now at least on the ground floor I am having programmable thermostats installed, which I then tell when to turn on or off, according to time or temperature. At night, for example, they then stay completely off, that's the plan.

I only wanted to express that there is a "direct 1:1 transfer," since the heat effect acts directly on the body and does not first warm the ambient air or the building mass (floor).

I did not misunderstand that, I can only say so far that I do not perceive the heat any differently than I did before with another heating system. Maybe it is also because we do not have a "mega burner," but in each room for example two smaller ones, and it is distributed that way. Maybe it is different to perceive with a single element, but when I go into the bathroom for example, it is as warm as it should be and from just the feeling I couldn’t tell you how the heat was generated.

May I join in here? We have an old building, the roof is insulated and the windows are triple-glazed. No wall insulation. Heating is done with a gas heating system, according to the technician it is a good modern standard. However, the radiators are quite old and mixed. But they are already flat panel radiators. We have a radiator in the utility room entrance area that should not remain as it is because the heating pipes are in the way when you open the bathroom door. Now I wonder whether we even need heating there at all and if so, whether an infrared heater would even make sense for occasional use. In the utility room there will be a sink, a cabinet, washing machine and dryer. The same applies to the parents' bedroom. The radiator is installed on an inconvenient wall. The room is already quite small at just under 12 sqm. We don’t heat our current bedroom of the same size at all, but it is better insulated. Or should we simply just replace the radiators?

Exciting discussion. In general, I also believe that (electro)infrared heating only makes sense if the house is close to the passive house standard. Otherwise, it becomes an energy guzzler. But if the house has low power demand, it can be worthwhile to save a lot during the installation of the heating system, even if that means paying a bit more during operation.

However, I would like to qualify a point that came up several times here: underfloor heating is not to blame if the house becomes too warm. That may have happened in the past when 40° or more was sent through the underfloor heating. Then the inertia is a problem. Today, 25-30° go through it. This results in floor temperatures of 23 to maybe 27°. Physics dictates that a delta-T of at least 3° between the floor and the room must exist if energy is to be transferred. So if the room is heated to 24° or more by external loads (sun, wood stove), the underfloor heating CANNOT transfer energy to the room anymore. On the contrary: after several hours of heat, it absorbs the energy and distributes it in the house. (admittedly, that is academic)
With a properly designed underfloor heating system, there is no need to fear this. The only culprits can then be a too small roof overhang on the south side or the wood stove. Or the party. ;-) But this is the same in any house, regardless of underfloor heating. Which, by the way, is just another type of infrared heating operated with water.
What you should definitely give up on in a reasonably insulated house, however, are significantly different temperatures between rooms. This is neither good for the energy efficiency of any heating system nor for building protection. And I only know people who, after a short adjustment period, wouldn’t want to miss the new "way" of heating. My grandparents come from a farmhouse. Back then, they didn’t heat at night at all and only heated the kitchen in the morning. Eventually, central heating was added but was turned off almost everywhere, of course, because it costs money. By now, every room has its 20° 24 hours a day and they couldn’t be happier. My parents are also not bothered that there are no drafts in the new building anymore. And I renovated my old building for environmental reasons – but in hindsight, the comfort gain (even with reduced heating energy input) would have been enough of an argument. Every room is permanently usable, there is no more musty smell of heating air, and the floors can be walked on all year round without shoes. By the way, without thermostats and constantly turning knobs. A dream.

Hello everyone,
I am still too new to send private messages, but I am interested in the heating from pagoni2020! We are also currently planning KFW40 standard with IR heating and photovoltaic system...
Maybe you read this and write to me or reply here :)
Thanks!