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2016-05-27 10:23:28
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Our preferred provider also offers us an inspection of the sample selection with calculation before the contract is concluded; in addition, we aim for small re-plannings.
Of course, we will take the opportunity to visit and are very excited. I can imagine that in such a sampling center, people are very much under the impression of the events, and the communication is naturally aimed at profit maximization from the provider’s side.
That’s why we have already gone through some catalogs... Trying to get a preliminary feeling for what makes sense, where one should invest now. It’s shocking how expensive building has become. But we don’t want to base this only on the numbers. Instead, on what is a really reasonable standard regarding electrical installations, for example, which one should be prepared to pay for, or what is nonsense, where one is convinced they absolutely need something that, in practice, makes no difference in the house compared to the standard that would have been included in the fixed price.
Maybe you could share your experiences with this or that position... I will attach the floor plan of the intended house again later.
1. Electrical Planning
Here, we find it difficult to estimate what is really needed. Saving on sockets seems wrong to us, but we also cannot categorize what an upgrade "should cost," or whether it makes sense for this trade to possibly outsource it? Google has given me very different price indications regarding upgrades for sockets.
Example: The standard would include 2 ceiling or wall outlets in the kitchen (assuming lamps?), 8 sockets placed at will, 5 double sockets placed at will, 1 antenna socket, 1 stove connection. Standard children’s room would be 1 ceiling outlet, 8 sockets placed at will, 1 antenna socket, 1 telephone socket, 1 smoke detector ---> 8 sockets sounds good at first, but I assume that the standard only offers the minimum and is possibly not sufficient.
The best execution level would offer us
Kitchen: 2 more double sockets, children’s room would additionally include 2 normal sockets and 1 double socket plus 1 LED orientation light. We have to ask what the additional cost is. What do you think, does the upgrade make sense here? Shouldn't there perhaps also be a triple socket? For later under a desk alone... computer, desk lamp, printer...
2. Screed
The screed will be applied floating, and you can choose between 5 or 6 cm thickness. We are laymen and have no idea; does the extra cm bring any benefit? In what way? Is it worth it?
3. Knee Wall
The standard knee wall would be 1 m. Currently, in our rented apartment, we have no sloping walls, and living without slopes is of course nice. To reduce the shock and limitations, an increase in the knee wall height is being considered. We can build two stories, which would basically not be a problem regarding the regulations. From your experience, does it make much difference in everyday life to set the knee wall to 1.40 m? We find a gable roof the nicest, but we could also build two full stories plus a gable roof... but that will certainly be much more expensive, right? In which range do you think such a re-planning would lie?
4. Bathroom Tiles
The standard includes tiles priced at €30 per sqm, which do not appeal to us visually. We find those for €40 very nice in design and would choose accordingly. Our bathroom would have just under 16 sqm of floor space; we would like the side walls to be tiled at least 1.60 m high. Roughly estimating the price for tiles and labor, €1000 should roughly be enough, right?
5. Floor-to-ceiling Windows
We currently live in a very bright apartment, and we do not want to significantly worsen that here. Accordingly, we would like to install 2 additional floor-to-ceiling windows in the living room, as well as double windows with muntins in the parents’ and 2 children’s rooms. I fear that could be a very, very expensive upgrade. But more light is always worth it, right? In which range do you think that would lie?
6. Interior Plaster
All living rooms would receive a 10 mm thick gypsum plaster in Q2 quality. We do not want to paint directly on that or use very thin wallpapers anyway; we imagine “normal” textured wallpapers. Is Q2 sufficient then, or should one choose a better quality right away?
Thanks to you all!
Of course, we will take the opportunity to visit and are very excited. I can imagine that in such a sampling center, people are very much under the impression of the events, and the communication is naturally aimed at profit maximization from the provider’s side.
That’s why we have already gone through some catalogs... Trying to get a preliminary feeling for what makes sense, where one should invest now. It’s shocking how expensive building has become. But we don’t want to base this only on the numbers. Instead, on what is a really reasonable standard regarding electrical installations, for example, which one should be prepared to pay for, or what is nonsense, where one is convinced they absolutely need something that, in practice, makes no difference in the house compared to the standard that would have been included in the fixed price.
Maybe you could share your experiences with this or that position... I will attach the floor plan of the intended house again later.
1. Electrical Planning
Here, we find it difficult to estimate what is really needed. Saving on sockets seems wrong to us, but we also cannot categorize what an upgrade "should cost," or whether it makes sense for this trade to possibly outsource it? Google has given me very different price indications regarding upgrades for sockets.
Example: The standard would include 2 ceiling or wall outlets in the kitchen (assuming lamps?), 8 sockets placed at will, 5 double sockets placed at will, 1 antenna socket, 1 stove connection. Standard children’s room would be 1 ceiling outlet, 8 sockets placed at will, 1 antenna socket, 1 telephone socket, 1 smoke detector ---> 8 sockets sounds good at first, but I assume that the standard only offers the minimum and is possibly not sufficient.
The best execution level would offer us
Kitchen: 2 more double sockets, children’s room would additionally include 2 normal sockets and 1 double socket plus 1 LED orientation light. We have to ask what the additional cost is. What do you think, does the upgrade make sense here? Shouldn't there perhaps also be a triple socket? For later under a desk alone... computer, desk lamp, printer...
2. Screed
The screed will be applied floating, and you can choose between 5 or 6 cm thickness. We are laymen and have no idea; does the extra cm bring any benefit? In what way? Is it worth it?
3. Knee Wall
The standard knee wall would be 1 m. Currently, in our rented apartment, we have no sloping walls, and living without slopes is of course nice. To reduce the shock and limitations, an increase in the knee wall height is being considered. We can build two stories, which would basically not be a problem regarding the regulations. From your experience, does it make much difference in everyday life to set the knee wall to 1.40 m? We find a gable roof the nicest, but we could also build two full stories plus a gable roof... but that will certainly be much more expensive, right? In which range do you think such a re-planning would lie?
4. Bathroom Tiles
The standard includes tiles priced at €30 per sqm, which do not appeal to us visually. We find those for €40 very nice in design and would choose accordingly. Our bathroom would have just under 16 sqm of floor space; we would like the side walls to be tiled at least 1.60 m high. Roughly estimating the price for tiles and labor, €1000 should roughly be enough, right?
5. Floor-to-ceiling Windows
We currently live in a very bright apartment, and we do not want to significantly worsen that here. Accordingly, we would like to install 2 additional floor-to-ceiling windows in the living room, as well as double windows with muntins in the parents’ and 2 children’s rooms. I fear that could be a very, very expensive upgrade. But more light is always worth it, right? In which range do you think that would lie?
6. Interior Plaster
All living rooms would receive a 10 mm thick gypsum plaster in Q2 quality. We do not want to paint directly on that or use very thin wallpapers anyway; we imagine “normal” textured wallpapers. Is Q2 sufficient then, or should one choose a better quality right away?
Thanks to you all!