Damages to plastic windows

  • Erstellt am 2020-05-13 06:48:25

halmi

2020-05-13 08:24:04
  • #1
Why should he be the one providing proof? The warranty law is quite clear here.

He must turn to the one with whom he has a contract, this all sounds very much like a general contractor. He does not have to turn to any window installer or plasterer. That should be clarified first.
 

Brüllheidi

2020-05-13 08:39:00
  • #2
We bought the windows through a private company that has them manufactured in Poland.

The windows were partly already damaged during installation, some of these damages still need to be corrected by re-lamination. The window company is also aware of this.
We took photos of all other damages promptly - always photographed and documented the damages.
For example, the employee of the plumbing company pulled his cables through the open windows on the 1st floor or climbed over the scaffolding through the open windows with his shoes, stepped on the frames, and caused significant damage. This has already been clarified promptly and the damages will be covered.

At the time we took photos of the other damages, only the shell construction company was on site. Therefore, it is actually quite easy to track who was responsible.
The 4m aluminum rail of the lift-and-slide door element is also completely damaged; the shell construction company will cover this. Of course, they do not want to be responsible for the other things.

The roofer treated the house back then with bitumen on the lower insulation - as a result, the lamination of the lift-and-slide door is completely contaminated with bitumen at the bottom, which can no longer be removed.
You can't even imagine how many damages we have from sloppy work on the window frames/lamination - inside and outside. Cuts and deep scratches/abrasions in the plastic caused by cutter knives or other sharp objects...
It's simply disgusting...

We know that these things are going to be difficult to prove to anyone. But we have to try somehow. Otherwise, we’ll end up paying for it again now...

We had already considered having an expert examine these things. But that probably won’t help much...
 

halmi

2020-05-13 08:49:11
  • #3
then it will of course definitely be bad now. Sounds like individual awards and always taking the cheapest...

An expert opinion probably won't help much, the damages are demonstrably present. You just have to find the one who caused the damage in each individual case. It will be very difficult since several trades have damaged the windows.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you still manage to solve the problem.
 

nordanney

2020-05-13 08:57:22
  • #4
Oh shit! Well then, good luck with all the companies; that’s quite a puzzle. In the end, there will definitely be damages left that nobody wants to admit to, and I doubt a repair will ever fully restore a 100% like-new appearance.

1. Windows damaged during installation – damages recognized by the window installer and supposed to be fixed 2. Damages caused by plumbing – supposed to be fixed 3. Damages caused by roofer – how will this be settled? 4. Damages caused by shell builder – only takes responsibility for part 5. Damages caused by plasterer – yet to be clarified 6. Damages caused by nobody – big problem ==> many construction sites where nobody can say if and how well the damages will be repaired
 

Tolentino

2020-05-13 08:59:29
  • #5
My condolences to the OP. I would like to chime in here because I might also face individual awarding of the window installation if my general contractor doesn't get his under control. How could something like this have been prevented? I mean, you can somehow imagine that not all craftspeople are super careful (sorry to the OP). Are there window protection films with padding that prevent such scratches? Can you order them together with the windows from the window manufacturer or does it have to be done on site? If you overdo the "wrapping" of the installed windows, are there problems for the following trades (plasterers)? What else should one pay attention to?
 

guckuck2

2020-05-13 09:02:03
  • #6
The problem is, when an external contractor, for example, damages the window and there are no witnesses or confessions, it becomes difficult to prove who is at fault. Especially since it is obvious that the windows already had pre-existing damage. Who is supposed to have caused which scratch (and at what compensation value)?

We also had a damage case (single trade contract) on the wrapping that was quite clearly caused by the plasterer. No other trades were present that day, and the spot matched the work carried out. Still, everything was denied. Of course, I deducted something from the invoice, he made quite a fuss but left it at that. I probably can no longer hope for warranty from him if something happens.
The missing spot was concealed by the window fitter with a paint pen. That’s okay. They can also do wrapping on-site, but of course that costs quite differently.

In your situation, it will be really difficult anyway because the windows were already crap.



Acceptance of the windows immediately after installation involving the general contractor. So everyone is clear whether there are pre-existing damages or not. If something happens afterward, it is at least harder to deny responsibility. If then no one is at fault, it might possibly be covered by the construction all-risk insurance because the window is already firmly connected to the building and in the client’s risk area.
My window fitter insisted on such an appointment himself, because especially in the era of wrappings, something (visible) always happens.
 

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