Current building culture and energy-saving ordinance-compliant new development areas

  • Erstellt am 2018-03-24 14:36:13

ruppsn

2018-03-29 01:15:50
  • #1
I don't understand the argumentation. So looking at prison walls for rent (and lining the landlord's pockets) is okay, but owning them is not (apart from the fact that 440 sqm has little to do with a prison)? Hm, I don't know. With 440 sqm you have a garden (albeit small) and also a terrace with sun. Why that should be worse than an apartment in the city someone needs to explain to me. Because most of the time that is exactly the choice: apartment with all its disadvantages (noise from neighbors because they are selfish, have a different rhythm or too thin building fabric; constant antisocial behavior regarding the use of trash bins; parking situation; usually MUCH smaller terraces or balconies - not everyone lives in a penthouse etc.) versus a small but nice plot in the commuter belt, more child-friendly environment and the own design of the layout including open spaces and terraces. So I wouldn't have to think long about it. And no one says that if larger plots are available for a similar price they wouldn't take the bigger one, but would deliberately choose the smaller one. But some here seem to misunderstand the situation: 1. you won't find anything in the 500 sqm-800 sqm range here unless you move > 60 km out without significant infrastructure 2. if you are lucky enough to find something like that, the plots go in bidding procedures, starting bid: at least 400€/sqm - then landing beyond 500€/sqm. Participated 3 times 3. available building gaps can't be had for less than 500€/sqm, partly in the four-digit sqm price range 4. local resident models make it almost impossible even for young families who have worked and lived in the region for over 10 years to get building plots in new development areas in surrounding communities 5. the situation is no different for existing stock, the owners are not stupid and know the prices, sometimes demanding the mentioned sqm prices despite a dump

I find it difficult to put together a fictional ideal world, compare it to reality, and then come to the conclusion that only the fiction would represent a real option. Come to Franconia (or Bavaria) and try your luck. Then look for 500 to 600 sqm for your family for 5 years and notice how the time window slowly closes. Then we'll talk again. And please keep comments like "here in the North..." to yourselves. I'm from Lower Saxony myself, where my family lives, and I know the differences. It doesn't help me down here...

Sorry, but that's kind of my sore spot...
 

Alex85

2018-03-29 05:24:53
  • #2
Perhaps at some point it will become clear that in urban areas single-family homes are simply no longer possible or sensible. There is already too little housing in some places. Isn't it then a mistake to designate new development areas for single-family homes?
 

kaho674

2018-03-29 05:55:08
  • #3
Probably. It will then be full of skyscrapers here as in New York or similar places.
 

ruppsn

2018-03-29 08:32:30
  • #4
What would be the alternative or what could a solution look like?
 

Alex85

2018-03-29 08:40:02
  • #5


Build apartment buildings, at most townhouses. Single-family homes in the city just won't exist anymore.

At some point, the expectation will grow that ordinary citizens should be able to afford a single-family home in/near the city. The outrage about this change already exists; in response, plots become smaller or useless measures like child-raising subsidies are devised. But smaller than 400 sqm is no longer possible for a single-family home; soon it will only be semi-detached houses or townhouses until there are only apartments left.
It's a logical sequence when land in metropolitan areas keeps getting more expensive.
Then the single-family home in/near the city is simply a thing of the past.
 

Caspar2020

2018-03-29 08:45:22
  • #6


That is true luxury. Around here, rabbit hutches with 110sqm living space over 3 floors without a basement are sold with 144sqm towels. There you can almost shake hands with the neighbor on the left and right at the same time; and half of new development districts come from that.

And it sells.
 

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