Tommes78
2015-04-03 12:35:06
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Hi everyone,
I have a question for you. We bought a plot of land (NRW) with a slight slope and recently visited an architect who planned a single-family house for us with great anticipation.
At our first meeting, we said that we have a budget of about €260,000 for the house including everything. He said that we could get something nice for that.
Now we had the second appointment and he really planned something nice. He responded to the plot and designed a kind of split-level house with 2 building volumes and 2 shed roofs.
The planned house has an area of 146 m2 ground floor and upper floor living space + 24 m2 usable space = 170 m2 total area.
Now the architect made a cost estimate and according to him, calculated with medium standard. The cost range according to BKI for 260 to 410 m3 of enclosed space was assumed at 350 m3.
The cost estimate states 763.53 m3 x 350 € m3 = 267,236 € + carport 72 m3 x 100 € m3 = 7,218 = 274,455 € total construction sum without incidental construction costs
Or broken down differently
Preparation and development €4,600
Cost group 300 building construction €222,280
Cost group 400 technical equipment €45,180 (oil heating, ventilation system)
Outdoor facilities + carport €10,000 (I find that a bit little)
Incidental construction costs €41,188
this results in a total amount of €323,000 including VAT.
We were a bit shocked because we actually had €260,000 as a guideline and going over by €60,000 is quite a lot in my opinion. €280,000 is our absolute limit.
Of course, we still want to contribute the usual own work in the end (tiling, flooring, painting, outdoor facilities, interior finishing),
but that would only save about €15,000 - €20,000 at most.
What do you think? Are these really the amounts you have to pay today or did the architect just calculate very well or set the preliminary estimate too high? Or is the planned house too exclusive?
As a comparison, we once had a finished offer from a general contractor who offers very high quality. They planned a house with a pitched roof, 160 m2 (excluding attic) for €250,000 as a fixed price. Without basement, ventilation system, and outdoor facilities. But with the contractor’s variant, the plot would have had to be leveled.
Looking forward to your feedback
Regards, Thomas
I have a question for you. We bought a plot of land (NRW) with a slight slope and recently visited an architect who planned a single-family house for us with great anticipation.
At our first meeting, we said that we have a budget of about €260,000 for the house including everything. He said that we could get something nice for that.
Now we had the second appointment and he really planned something nice. He responded to the plot and designed a kind of split-level house with 2 building volumes and 2 shed roofs.
The planned house has an area of 146 m2 ground floor and upper floor living space + 24 m2 usable space = 170 m2 total area.
Now the architect made a cost estimate and according to him, calculated with medium standard. The cost range according to BKI for 260 to 410 m3 of enclosed space was assumed at 350 m3.
The cost estimate states 763.53 m3 x 350 € m3 = 267,236 € + carport 72 m3 x 100 € m3 = 7,218 = 274,455 € total construction sum without incidental construction costs
Or broken down differently
Preparation and development €4,600
Cost group 300 building construction €222,280
Cost group 400 technical equipment €45,180 (oil heating, ventilation system)
Outdoor facilities + carport €10,000 (I find that a bit little)
Incidental construction costs €41,188
this results in a total amount of €323,000 including VAT.
We were a bit shocked because we actually had €260,000 as a guideline and going over by €60,000 is quite a lot in my opinion. €280,000 is our absolute limit.
Of course, we still want to contribute the usual own work in the end (tiling, flooring, painting, outdoor facilities, interior finishing),
but that would only save about €15,000 - €20,000 at most.
What do you think? Are these really the amounts you have to pay today or did the architect just calculate very well or set the preliminary estimate too high? Or is the planned house too exclusive?
As a comparison, we once had a finished offer from a general contractor who offers very high quality. They planned a house with a pitched roof, 160 m2 (excluding attic) for €250,000 as a fixed price. Without basement, ventilation system, and outdoor facilities. But with the contractor’s variant, the plot would have had to be leveled.
Looking forward to your feedback
Regards, Thomas