Consultation for photovoltaic systems

  • Erstellt am 2021-09-13 14:52:07

Deliverer

2021-09-15 22:54:09
  • #1
Ah, you probably meant the size of the storage. Misread. Sorry.

I still want to come back to the size of the photovoltaics: If you want to charge a medium-sized electric car in winter (and yes, everyone here will want that in at most 10 years), it takes a full two days with bad weather and a 50 kWp system. Whether there is a storage unit in the basement or not doesn't matter.

So if you're thinking about photovoltaics, you shouldn't waste time with 10 kWp gimmicks, but rather fill the roofs completely.
 

driver55

2021-09-16 07:42:48
  • #2
No. The heating requires 12 kWh on a winter day + 5-8 kWh for household. I want to see the estimate (cost) of the system (modules/appropriate storage/installation/other...maintenance...) for my self-sufficient house. Semi-detached house with approximately 100 sqm roof area (50 sqm at 15 degrees, 50 sqm at 25 degrees south)
 

RotorMotor

2021-09-16 07:50:44
  • #3
100 sqm is not enough for a self-sufficient house. Have you looked exactly how much photovoltaic you can install?

Roughly estimated, you end up at 15-20 kWp. That is of course not bad, but still quite far from self-sufficient.

So here the probability is still high that the storage will not be full in winter!
 

Deliverer

2021-09-16 08:14:00
  • #4
Quite demanding. But alright: The rule of thumb is 1000,-€ per installed kWp as well as installed kWh storage. Currently, due to material shortages, about 10-20% more expensive. There is no suitable storage because that is nonsense. Installation is included. Others depend on your house, so it is best to discuss with the solar installer. Maintenance, given your low roof pitch, would possibly be cleaning every few years.
 

Deliverer

2021-09-16 09:12:03
  • #5
Unfortunately, rather yes. It is a race against the failure of the battery electronics. It is not the storage cells that fail, as we experience in the automotive sector. Optimistic calculations therefore assume a battery lifespan of 15 years. And during that time, it should at least break even. Then, although it hasn't helped much besides environmental destruction, at least you haven't lost money. Well, and that only works if you actually fully charge and discharge it 200 times a year. The former requires a photovoltaic system that is at least three times larger (in kWp) than the battery (in kWh). The latter can basically only be done with senselessly high night consumption in the summer.
 

Deliverer

2021-09-16 09:18:27
  • #6
I already mentioned it: You have no idea HOW LITTLE power comes through when the weather is really bad! And unfortunately, that happens quite often (at least this summer...). I have 28 kWp on the roof, it is quarter past 9 and in my opinion, it is not autumn yet:
 

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