Construction supervision by an expert?

.....The HOAI is not a "protection of acquired rights" – it is, besides - a few - other things, something that guarantees all of us a reliable and thus calculable figure.

Please read carefully! =>" in diesem Bereich"! By the way, one can certainly have different opinions, which is quite legitimate.

.....I know that you are very committed to your TGA planning and I also know that in terms of billing you are well below what your "colleagues" demand for their work.

This is not an invented decision, but simply an adjustment to the requirements and new conditions.

.....– you will be forced to hire personnel and thus your cost apparatus will implicitly approach the "normal" sums that are demanded (must be) in your industry for TGA planning. What if then a "new" euro underbids your prices?

An entrepreneurial decision that everyone must make for themselves anew each time. Predefined "protection areas" are out of place here.
Expansion, in my opinion, has never led to lasting success, at best temporarily. If my capacity is exceeded, I decline orders. Quite simply, I do not have to expand for that reason.

.....These architects are either permanently employed or work – similar to retired tax advisors – in that a draftsman prepares the floor plans and he only signs under them.

This means that the majority of the construction projects are handled via supraregional general contractors / construction managers.

.....I cannot even describe how much this "stinginess is cool" mentality gets on my nerves! First wanting to pay (almost) nothing upfront and then whining when "only" the actual value of (almost) nothing is ready for occupancy; if at all....

That annoys me too, admittedly, but what does that change? That good quality inevitably causes costs is undisputed, but who actually cares? The main thing is the "dream house" at a bargain price.
Later the whining is often loud, if at all publicly noticeable. These clients are lost to reputable providers in the long run.
There are plenty and enough naive, inexperienced people. The market accordingly serves this demand.

Regards

Well, that’s what you might call a naïve calculation. Do you know everything that is included in Service Phase 8 - Site Supervision?

Service Phase 8: Site Supervision (Construction Supervision)

a) Monitoring the execution of the object for compliance with the building permit or approval, the execution plans
and the specifications as well as with the generally accepted rules of
technology and the relevant regulations

b) Monitoring the execution of load-bearing structures according to § 50 paragraph 2 numbers 1 and 2
for compliance with the structural safety verification

c) Coordinating the professionals involved in site supervision

d) Supervision and detailed correction of prefabricated parts

e) Creating and monitoring a schedule (bar chart)

f) Keeping a construction diary

g) Joint measurement with the construction companies

h) Acceptance of construction services with the participation of other professionals involved in planning and site supervision with
identification of defects

i) Invoice verification

j) Cost determination according to DIN 276 or according to residential property calculation law

k) Application for official approvals and participation therein

l) Handover of the object including compilation and handing over the required documents, for example
instruction manuals, test certificates

m) Listing of limitation periods for warranty claims

n) Monitoring the rectification of defects identified at the acceptance
of the construction services

o) Cost control by checking the performance billing of the construction companies in comparison with the
contract prices and the cost estimate

Source: HOAI.de

There is a lot of work involved. And last but not least: RESPONSIBILITY!
So please don’t just calculate the hours that you actually see the architect.

Best regards

If everything is itemized like this, you can also understand what the architects have done or where tasks are still pending that they need to handle.

In my case, I don’t have a signed contract with the architect either.

We never even saw things like 3D (as promised to us at the start).

We had to listen to accusations that we are resistant to advice --> just because we prefer a roof overhang to a roof that cuts off at the house wall.

Yes, and the sum of all this is that I am frustrated and try to do most of it myself / which is difficult for me since I am always on the move (writing this from Mexico right now)

But thanks for the numerous replies, very helpful

Well, that is what people often call a naive calculation. Do you know everything that belongs to service phase 8 - site supervision?

Service phase 8: Site supervision (construction supervision)

a) Monitoring the execution of the object for compliance with the building permit or approval, the execution plans
and the service descriptions as well as with the generally accepted rules of
technology and the relevant regulations

b) Monitoring the execution of load-bearing structures according to § 50 paragraph 2 number 1 and 2
for compliance with the structural safety proof

c) Coordinating the specialists involved in the site supervision

d) Supervision and detailed correction of prefabricated parts

e) Preparation and monitoring of a schedule (bar chart)

f) Keeping a construction diary

g) Joint measurement with the construction executing companies

h) Acceptance of construction services with the involvement of other specialists involved in planning and site supervision under
identification of defects

i) Invoice verification

j) Cost determination according to DIN 276 or according to the residential property calculation law

k) Application for official acceptances and participation therein

l) Handover of the object including compilation and handover of the required documents, for example
operating instructions, test reports

m) Listing of limitation periods for claims for defects

n) Monitoring the elimination of defects identified during the acceptance
of construction services

o) Cost control by checking the performance accounting of the construction executing companies compared to
contract prices and the cost estimate

Source: HOAI.de

There is a lot of work behind that. And last but not least: RESPONSIBILITY!
So please do not just count the hours that you see the architects.

Regards

Yes, yes... it all reads wonderfully. Paper is patient, including the HOAI...

Hello,

For me, it’s also the case that I don’t have a signed contract with the architect.

That is unfortunate, as you now realize, because it will be difficult to determine the scope of the commission. Because even without a signed contract, you have entered into a legally binding agreement with your architect, precisely at the moment you asked him to draw plans for you.

Yes, and the result of that is that I am frustrated and try to do most of it myself, which is difficult for me since I am always on the move (writing from Mexico right now)

Again – after your return, seek a conversation with your architect and don’t get further worked up over “unlaid” eggs for the time being; it also really takes a toll on your stomach. You haven’t even started actual construction yet; in the end, you might end up with a stomach ulcer in your new house :-(

Only if the conversation does not lead to the hoped-for/desirable outcome should you consider partially terminating the verbally concluded contract.

Kind regards

Hello construction expert,

.....That means, at least few users will question your posts or filter out your personal opinion from your answers.

In my opinion, this is a big mistake found in many internet forums. The opinion expressed by the questioner should always be questioned before it is taken into consideration. This applies especially to anonymous messages.

....So you have trouble selling values ...

On the contrary, a major focus of my work. On the topic: A good horse only jumps as high as it must – or, you don’t have to unnecessarily inflate a balloon without a substantial increase in value for the client. E.Curb is certainly right; in the details there is more effort involved than laypeople would suspect based on the hours seen. However, one can concentrate on critical focal points. But Häuslebauer is not entirely wrong either. Paper is indeed sometimes patient. To see this, one only has to look at the many nicely calculated Energy Saving Ordinance/KfW certificates compared with practical implementation.

....I have the impression on this platform, not for the first time, that it is rather the “small-minded” homeowners who publicly hang out here.

This applies to many forums. The somewhat naive optimists really expect valuable things for free or believe that generous gifts are distributed (subsidies).

....This – admittedly – small proportion motivates me time and again to continue answering questions in my area of expertise. The rest cannot be helped anyway and will become the just prey of their actions.

That is also my position. The percentage of the wiser will increase.

....“that ‘these builders’ really can’t afford to build..

Agreement, also my argumentation. Rather a few m³ less enclosed space, maybe somewhat more modest, but solid and exact foundations and quality that always pay off in the long run. Best regards

14,000 I don't find that too much.

14,000 euros maybe 11 years ago... that's how old the post is.