Construction project in NRW

  • Erstellt am 2016-08-12 15:58:22

T21150

2016-08-12 18:24:53
  • #1
PS: In the cafeteria of the park you can buy a good book for little money. It contains a lot about wooden frame construction, but also much that is correct and important, which is generally valid. Go there again, get the book.
 

MarcWen

2016-08-12 18:46:41
  • #2


Please fill out your profile according to the guidelines!

Then best to take it easy, dreaming is good, reality often blurs. Panic is not good either. Currently, everything that meets the definition of building land is being sold or prepared.

Suddenly it doesn’t matter whether you cuddle with a noise barrier or sit on a pile of residual waste.

Important: household budget book, calmly look back 12 months, then you can clearly see where the money is going. Increase the savings rate. With this information, you go to your house bank, or if you like, to 2-3 banks and see what is possible with income/expenses, rent, savings rate.

Then you get a few building blocks explained but somewhere there should be a number what you can realistically borrow. Equity is a very important point. Banks look very closely at this when it comes to good conditions.

Let’s say you "have 400k euros." Land cost 100k euros + incidental costs = 110,000 euros. Ancillary building costs 30-40,000 euros. Then roughly 250k remain for the house.

Now we come to areas where you have to significantly adjust your expectations, provide a lot of own work or do some magic. :)

Building is half a luxury and I also firmly assume that we will have a strong price increase again in 1 year.
 

T21150

2016-08-12 21:06:57
  • #3


VERY realistic and useful guideline values!!!!! Even though the outdoor facilities are missing here. But for around 220-250K you can still build a house of roughly the desired size of the original poster without a basement, even today. I also had no money left for the outdoor facilities, and I am gradually pulling them out of my old discs. Others next door: Ditto, but (almost) do nothing. That actually also takes time, the main thing is that the house is finished and structurally secured. The rest can be done gradually......and with many ideas and effort also a lot of money can be saved. Even if you do something for only 30 minutes every day: It adds up here, unlike owner labor in construction, there is no time pressure.



That works. Owner labor is overrated. Calculate max. 15-20K, if more then life, zest for life, friendships, marriages,...... break down. You do not need KNX, 150 sockets and so on. Normally equipped: That is already pure luxury. I warn against building with too much owner labor. I myself - to put it fatally - completely crashed and later still did a lot myself, but also had a lot done. Owner labor only works with a huge network of relatives and acquaintances who are willing to help *qualified* almost daily over 7-9 months. Who has that today? The young couple with children? That’s where the stress begins, that can be the beginning of the end of a marriage!!! Don’t do it! I know people who have just moved into a turnkey row house and are gasping on their last leg after 4 weeks of painting and laying floors + moving, and that is only the cherry on top.....the owner labor.



About 60% of people in Germany (approximately) rent. That is not cheap either. Living well, that is always luxury. Living well means: environment, apartment, people, friends, distance to workplace, costs, additional costs etc. are right. There are many people who live well in rental apartments. There are also people - I count myself and my wife among them - who associate traumatic experiences with that. Money is gone anyway, you only live once. Everyone makes that decision for themselves.

And yes: It is getting more and more expensive to build right now. I am already speechless at how prices are rising at the moment.

Best regards Thorsten
 

MarcWen

2016-08-12 21:40:57
  • #4


There are also people who stare at the moon every evening or walk their four-legged friend five times a day. Nobody cares. As long as the demand is simply unbroken and you can ask high prices in some areas, for that one would have left the store earlier.

It is actually shocking that you already have to make compromises at 250K, where you basically thought that was standard.
 

T21150

2016-08-12 21:44:02
  • #5


:) ROFL :)
True. There are even stranger people.

If you see what else is being sold around here: you become a sparkler.
People buy building plots that I wouldn't even think were building plots!!!!!!
So I absolutely agree with you.

At 250K (just for the house) with 130 sqm living space, the compromises with reasonable building land, surroundings, and house are quite acceptable, so we rather have a luxury problem there. With 250K, you can really manage more than adequately under good conditions.
 

MarcWen

2016-08-12 22:11:03
  • #6


Those were purely fictional numbers. I simply assumed 400K and did a bit of calculation. :D:D

Here it says plots starting at 350 euros/sqm. That would already be the commuter belt of a larger city or a lucrative small town.

We need more input; speculating is stupid. :)
 

Similar topics
27.10.2008Mold - Rent Reduction?11
25.08.2011Buying land without knowing what the house costs?23
24.05.2013Build big? Or continue renting?23
11.02.2015Cost planning for a single-family house including land, additional costs, architect32
21.03.2016Own work - floor coverings, painting, tiling, what else?40
19.02.2017How bad is the condition of our building ground?23
16.11.2017No building land due to new EU native model?167
01.02.2018Build an affordable prefab house on expensive building land17
05.06.2018Outdoor area - Tasks - Hiring a landscape gardener19
13.11.2018Grandma's house | Right of residence | Rent by oneself15
10.07.2019Calculations on the annoying topic of buying/building vs. renting19
16.10.2019Rent for construction dryer in final invoice/builder - legal?14
10.12.2019Building ground suddenly a biotope135
01.02.2020Paying "rent" to the partner... how?135
09.02.2020Loess Loam & Shell Limestone as Building Ground: Unexpected Expenses / Costs10
12.08.2020How to correctly determine the loan amount when there is a lot of personal contribution?15
15.03.2021Rent / Financing Purchase of Apartment or House22
03.10.2021Is refinancing possible after just 2 years? (for outdoor facility)21
28.09.2021Solar system for rent - is the offer okay?10
02.02.2025Construction financing as a young couple including own contribution20

Oben