Can 7000 m² of agricultural land be rezoned into building land?

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-25 17:29:12

ypg

2023-05-26 10:54:33
  • #1
I do not see the marked area at all as being in focus for a change of use. It is not located on a street, access is complicated. The street that crosses the tracks has commercial or industrial use (halls, civil engineering, etc.). If the marked property somehow has to be accessed, then it would have to be through the industrial area. And then there are still areas in between. No new residential areas along the tracks behind an industrial area will be created if there is also an attractive and different option. For example, opposite the planned perpendicular street, that is on the right side. Or more locally connected.

My father has a property that he wanted to give away soon: 1500 sqm in a landscape area on a street that is fully built up on the opposite side. He bought the property for 4000 DM in the 80s at an auction: there was extra money, hope for the construction of a ring road/bypass and thereby access to the residential area to the 40,000-inhabitant city and thus integration of the property as well. That was nearly 40 years ago, the residential area is still being expanded. But next to our property horses are still grazing, while the city center could well use a bypass road in the morning and evening... so: nothing has happened there, although much would be understandable. Possibly I can sell the property better sometime in the future. But I probably won't need the money then... I’m just saying: 40 years...
 

KarstenausNRW

2023-05-26 10:55:19
  • #2
When I read the information about Langeln, I increasingly come to the conclusion that there is little potential in the property. Especially if you do not want to develop towards the outer area - that's what the municipality says.



 

WilderSueden

2023-05-26 10:58:52
  • #3
To be honest, I don’t think it’s that bad. A good half hour to Hamburg, with rush hour maybe three-quarters of an hour. Ideal for 4 days home office and one day on-site. 10-15 minutes to Quickborn for shopping, although you can also do that on the way back from Hamburg. And otherwise, you have your peace and quiet. It’s not for city kids, but I would like it if you could get a decent plot there. It’s clear that you wouldn’t build a new development with 80 single-family houses and 10 multi-family houses here. Then the village would become an appendage of the new development.
 

KarstenausNRW

2023-05-26 12:28:27
  • #4
It depends on what you consider Hamburg. City center during rush hour about an hour, if you have to cross the Elbe, often and regularly more than 1.5 hours. By public transport about 1.5 hours to Hamburg main station.
 

11ant

2023-05-26 14:37:46
  • #5

The decisive factor is how much knowledge you have: the less, the more likely others will make any possible profit. The expected development can be seen in the usual documents from state to municipal level. If you are not even familiar with those, you can at best "sometimes find a grain as a blind hen."

Nowadays, 5000 sqm in a newly designated building area in the countryside are no longer five to six plots, but (5000 - 20% for traffic areas etc. = 4000, divided by an average of 400) ten of them.

That was more like 2018 than today.

Exactly, it is preferred to connect rather than establish a satellite. However: where separation is desired, such a location would be favorable, for example for temporary settlement to accommodate refugees. Then the OP should probably also bid for container buildings at the same time ;-).

The latter is no obstacle and can quite well be seen as an opportunity.
 

Simdemi

2023-05-26 14:44:36
  • #6



Hello Karsten, thank you very much for your posts! For now, my goal is to sell the plot after a few years. Building on it is not conceivable at the moment, but let’s see what time will bring. The population size is also one of the factors that made me think a bit. It has been steady over recent years. Nevertheless, Langeln is located between two medium-sized towns (Barmstedt and Kaltenkirchen), so I can imagine that Langeln might get a piece of the pie as well. Of course, that would take some years. The justification in the land use plan states that a conversion of the agricultural land for residential construction is planned. Of course, it is unclear where and when this will happen in Langeln. A big potential is actually the railway connection. I can imagine that someday the center of Langeln will shift to around the train station. Well, I think I’ll just participate in the auction and see how things develop. After all, I’m still a young 24 :D
 

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