BEV insolvency

2019-02-04 12:15:24

Hi,

I already read it last week...and immediately reversed all recent withdrawals ;) So I shouldn’t have any loss.

That remains to be seen... Although I also reversed the last transaction, I expect the insolvency administrator to reclaim it. Even if you already had a large credit at the time of the last withdrawal, it still counts as part of the insolvency estate. Insolvency law has nothing to do with common sense....

In our case, the current appraisal is only 50 euros anyway, so it’s hardly worth stressing over.

Regards,

Andreas

2019-02-04 15:25:48

Hi,

I am/was also an electricity customer at BEV. Since I assume that as a private person you, number 354468 on the claim list in the insolvency, will get nothing, the only question is actually about damage limitation.

Our contract would have expired in 2 months anyway, we have already received the immediate bonus. But since they set high advance payments, we will still have quite a bit of credit, which we can now of course write off. We won’t even talk about the 15% bonus after 12 months.

The municipal utilities have already contacted me and asked for the current meter reading:

This raises the question: What actually happens if I now roughly calculate my current “credit” correctly and add that to the meter reading?

In other words, for example, I calculate a “credit” of about 250 euros and report to the municipal utilities (of course purely by accident) a meter reading of 1000 kWh more than I currently have. These 1000 kWh are thus my “credit” that I can take with me to the next provider.

Am I overlooking something?

And to everyone who now wants to shout “EVIL”:

Since the municipal utilities constantly annoy us with much too high estimated electricity consumption (we had several water damages with corresponding electricity consumption for drying equipment, which they consistently ignored despite written evidence) and are therefore responsible for our too high advance payments, my sympathy is very limited.

Regards,

Andreas

Oops, I’m evil, I already did it and left the high consumption with BEV ;) anyway, no one cares because of 15€

2019-02-04 17:50:58

3. Electricity and gas offset against each other without immediate bonuses

... would be my favorite

Exactly where do you have to send your claims, does anyone know? How do you register in this insolvency table?

Currently, in this specific case, there is only a provisional insolvency administration. After the opening of the actual insolvency proceedings (see commercial register, insolvency announcements or, as in this case, a special website), you identify yourself to the insolvency administrator (and if you want to double-check, also to the insolvency court) and specify the subject and amount of your claim. Many insolvency administrators initially respond with denial; then you should have a specialist lawyer at hand.

that as a private individual, as number 354468 on the list of claims in the insolvency, you end up empty-handed,

Correct. I didn’t want to make my example too complex; yes, there is also the factor of "ranking." Regularly, at least the tax office and social security funds stand ahead of the private small creditor.

2019-07-05 07:50:06

So, now the time has come...

I received the final invoice from BEV yesterday for my gas contract.
The invoice is correct as far as the (price per unit/consumption) is concerned. However, the immediate bonus of €150 and the new customer bonus of 15% were of course not deducted.
The final invoice for the electricity contract is still outstanding.

If I do not pay within 14 days, the matter will immediately be passed on to a debt collection agency.

Can I somehow defend myself against this?

I consider it problematic to simply deduct some bonuses and transfer only part of the amount. The consumer advice center states on their website that, in their opinion, the immediate bonus can indeed be deducted if you have been supplied for 60 days.
However, this was not the case for me, according to the billing, it was only 54 days ^^

2019-07-05 08:22:40

So, now the time has come... I received the final invoice from BEV for my gas contract yesterday. The invoice is correct as far as the working price/consumption goes. However, the immediate bonus of €150 and the new customer bonus of 15% were of course not applied. The final invoice for the electricity contract is still pending. If I do not pay within 14 days, the matter will be passed on to a collection agency immediately. Is there any way I can somehow defend myself against this? Simply offsetting some bonuses and only paying part seems problematic to me. The consumer advice center writes on their homepage that, in their view, you can indeed offset the immediate bonus if you have been supplied for 60 days. This is not the case for me, according to the invoice it was only 54 days ^^

Consumer protection can write whatever they want. You’re the one who has the stress! They should also know that you have a claim in the form of the immediate bonus; the 15% you could maybe still contest somehow. BUT: if you unilaterally reduce the amount and it immediately goes to a collection agency, you bear the risk and stress. Possibly your credit record will also be negatively affected. We also received a final invoice with the same game. I then left it and paid; you won’t reach anyone there anyway.

2019-07-05 08:37:59

I have now objected for the time being.
A letter is being sent today by registered mail with return receipt.
It contains the contract confirmation, in which both bonuses are listed, and the request to check and adjust your final invoice accordingly.

Regarding the "new customer bonus 15%", it initially looks like it only takes effect after 12 months, so for me it doesn't apply.
The immediate bonus is a different matter, because it is not time-bound. It only states that it will be paid out about 60 days after the start of delivery)

Let's see what comes out of it.

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