Architects / Civil Engineer Service, Execution Plan, Scope

An implementation plan is simply too expensive. At least €20,000 is required. I would prefer the cheap solution. I want to have the building application and all necessary documents processed through the architect and civil engineer. I would also order a few detailed plans for that. What would you recommend to me? Which detailed planning should not be omitted?

Best regards

Whether you pay the 20,000 to the architect/construction engineer now or later to the construction companies doesn't really matter. The money doesn't just disappear. It might be a bit cheaper, but you always read the nicest things here in the forum when there is no architect planning. Everyone as they wish, a house doesn't cost anything, so you can hope on a whim that it somehow works out in the end.

An execution plan is simply too expensive. At least €20,000 is needed. I would prefer the cheap solution. I want to have the building application and all necessary documents handled through the architect and structural engineer. In addition, I would order a few detailed plans. What would you recommend for that? Which detailed planning should not be omitted?

Best regards

You can only do something like that if the contracted companies (from civil engineering to finishing) have known each other for years, work together, have a good reputation, and are located within a few kilometers.

We proceed just as you intend. However, my construction coordinator has built numerous investment properties with my contracted companies and is currently building a house for his daughter with them. He either went to school with all the owners of the trades or is related to them.

With tradesmen who don't know each other, I wouldn’t even try such an adventure. Everyone just passes the buck to the other trade.

Whether you pay the 20,000 now to the architect/structural engineer or later to the construction companies doesn't really matter. The money doesn't just disappear. It might be a bit cheaper, but you also always read the nicest things here in the forum when there is no access point. Everyone as they wish, a house doesn't cost anything, so you can hope on good luck that it will somehow work out in the end.

Such an execution plan is not a masterpiece either! You just need an "economical" & easy-to-understand construction method that all trades can manage. What do you think an architect does when calculating the parapet height??? He subtracts the ceiling, the roller shutter box, and the window + 4-6 cm and bam, you have your parapet height, no rocket science at all. Direction of door + window opening, socket, switch, etc. all no witchcraft.

Whether you pay the 20,000 now to the architect/construction engineer or later to the construction companies doesn’t really matter.
The money doesn’t just disappear. It might be a bit cheaper, but you also always read the nicest things here in the forum when there is no architect’s planning.
Everyone as they wish, a house doesn’t cost anything anyway, so you can just hope in good faith that it will somehow work out in the end.

It’s clear that it’s better to have everything done by the architect. Everything comes from one source. But cost-wise it’s simply not feasible for me, especially since I know a bunch of craftsmen. I just have to make something out of it.

An execution plan is not exactly a masterpiece! You just need an "economic" and easy-to-understand construction method that all trades can manage. What do you think an architect does when calculating the parapet height??? He subtracts the ceiling, the roller shutter box, and the window + 4-6cm and voilà, you have your parapet height, nothing rocket science. Direction of door and window openings, sockets, switches, etc., all no witchcraft.

What did you have the architect create in terms of drawings? I mean, which detailed plans besides the documents required for the building permit.