3D images and floor plan of a single-family house

  • Erstellt am 2015-09-20 18:26:05

kbt09

2015-09-20 20:49:51
  • #1
Well, you can't just look at a ground floor independently like that. Besides, it's much more sensible if you describe what your goals are and present the overall project. Here everyone plays "guess with Rosenthal" and somehow that's pointless. 3-D images are nice, but site plans, dimensioned floor plans with appropriately drawn-in furniture, etc. are more relevant ;)

Regarding the fireplace position, etc., I can only agree with . Huge rooms and minimal passageways.

Guest WC with shower in the vestibule? Who is supposed to shower there?
 

C333B

2015-09-20 21:23:11
  • #2
Many thanks first of all for the assessments!


Yes, I also noticed the table problem.
The alternative to turn the table 90 degrees (and probably the fireplace as well), as Karlstraße suggested, would mean that you could see directly from the living area into the kitchen.
I fear that the already very open living area would then seem even more "spacious," and the living room would no longer be cozy..?! A visual barrier to the kitchen should definitely remain.

What do you mean by the gate to hell? Dining table too close to the kitchen?

Could you give suggestions for the kitchen on how to prevent long distances without having to give up the cooking island and the adjacent breakfast platform?

Utility room: is to serve as a cellar substitute (next to the carport extension). It will contain a heat storage unit, gas heating, electrical system, and laundry (washing + drying).


Turning the fireplace 90 degrees would unfortunately mean, as described above, too open a living room.

Unfortunately, I'm running out of ideas on how to 1. implement a large fireplace, 2. place the fireplace in the room, and 3. use the fireplace simultaneously as a visual barrier to the kitchen... :-/ (not to mention the very narrow dining room..)

Entrance area: yes, unfortunately very elongated, but I don’t know how to prevent this here either without significantly relocating the kitchen.
Oh yes, by the way, the program is called Roomeon.


Thanks for the tip about the WC door, it will be changed! :-)

The upper floor is now also attached as well as 3D images of the bathroom, bedroom, and dressing room :-)

Many thanks




 

kbt09

2015-09-20 21:28:51
  • #3
So, the way to the shower or the toilet upstairs is... hmm tight, slalom ;)

Full floors? Or is there a knee wall height and roof pitch?

Yvonne has actually described the typical sensible template for opening a thread in precisely because otherwise these questions are asked somewhere in the thread and the answers appear somewhere else in the thread. I really think it's a pity to simply disregard it like that.
 

C333B

2015-09-20 21:47:06
  • #4
Comment read too late, so now as an addendum, at least what I can answer from it ;)

First of all: The shower in the guest WC will not be removed for the time being, but only when the house is full (2 children are there), so that at least an alternative shower is available somewhere in case it has to go fast.


Development plan/restrictions
Size of the plot: 600 sqm
Slope: very slight slope (will still be measured)
Orientation: southeast


Requirements of the builders
Style: country house
Roof shape: gable roof (low pitch)
Building type: single-family house
Basement: no
Floors: ground floor and upper floor (2 full floors, no sloping ceilings in the upper floor)
Number of persons: max. 4
Office: no
open architecture
Construction: Poroton
open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 4 (max. 6)
Fireplace: masonry, central
Carport with extension (basement replacement)


House design
Who developed the plan: architect
What is especially liked: open living space
What is not liked: vestibule, narrow dining area
favored heating technology: gas
 

ypg

2015-09-20 22:30:10
  • #5




What does an open living space mean to you? For me, it is a room where the couch and TV are located, centrally and generously found in the house, connecting several living areas. In your case, the living space is a quite normally integrated room, which, however, stands out in its size compared to the other areas on the ground floor.



The living room is less visible in the 3D pics, but the main area (sofa + view-through TV/fireplace) is shown, which already seems very small to me. The distance between TV/fireplace + sofa is very short, and behind it a living area that is actually only used as a place to put furniture? Dining area is not usable due to narrowness and fireplace, kitchen paths also feel very tight to me. In 3D, you can push the chairs around the counter into the furniture, but in real life, that doesn't work; these chairs will constantly be in the way.



What exactly is measured there? For example, I am missing the width of the dining area (2 something or 3 something?), the distance between the kitchen units...



A U-shape with a cooking island, fridge on one side, workspace on the other... always means long paths. An L-shape offers, for example, a quiet walking line where bar stools would not be in the way.





I thought the draft was by an architect? Why is this about your ideas?





The problem with a 3D program is, for example: once you have pressed the button and see your drawing in 3D, you fall in love without assessing it neutrally. You hold on to the walls and don’t want to let go, as they could collapse ;)

For me, the living space is too large, the dining area too small (it actually doesn’t exist because it is stored in the traffic area in front of the stairs), the kitchen too thoughtless, the access from entrance to kitchen too long. Upstairs, the same applies to the long path in the bathroom to the toilet; the dressing room could also be better accessed from the hallway.

You always have to walk around something – no coherent paths are found.

What I like: the courage to plan entrance and garden openings on one side (south). It works, few people have that imagination! :)

Regards, Yvonne
 

toxicmolotof

2015-09-20 23:27:11
  • #6

Haha, yes, that would also be a good association. I mean that the roommate or guest sitting "top left" or "at the head of the table on the top side" is slowly but surely getting roasted from behind or from the right side when the fireplace is lit. We have a rather small Scan fireplace (6kW) with a panoramic glass door and seating about 150cm away. Even there, if you operate the fireplace properly, it gets uncomfortably warm after at most half an hour, so you quickly move away. You would probably easily fall below that distance there and accordingly get grilled.


The oven, cooktop, work area, and fridge should be arranged in a triangle without obstacles or sharp edges in between. Also, the pantry shouldn’t be too far away. Unless the lady of the house gets paid by the kilometer.


We have everything mentioned on just under 7 sqm, except washing machine and dryer. And apart from a shelf, there isn’t much space left. I wouldn’t want to wash my laundry there. Where in your sketch is the heating supposed to go? And once you’ve accommodated that, where are the gas connection, where is the electrical connection, where are the gas and electricity meters and the fuses? With underfloor heating, you also need a heating circuit distributor, and then it’s more than full. I see serious space problems there because that is everything but a cellar replacement anymore. A stroller or four buckets of paint and there’s no room left.
 

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