Surveying Services - Cost Differences

  • Erstellt am 2020-09-14 12:25:36

moHouse

2020-09-14 21:22:53
  • #1
The answer from Escroda is 1a and helpful.

I won't write anything more to you KS1300S now. You contradicted yourself again in just a few lines. Whatever...

We might be wiser soon.
 

Mickykitty

2020-09-14 21:43:15
  • #2


Thank you very much for your very helpful answer!
Point 1 refers to §19 VermKatG. It basically states that all direct neighboring property owners (=participants) must agree with the determined boundaries.
Since the property has already been surveyed once, I strongly assume that this is the case.

I indeed stumbled over point 2 as well, and that point is also the reason why I want to reconfirm with the municipality. Your hint about the cadastral office is very good; I will call there first tomorrow.

@ks
Anyone who immediately assumes illegality here and thereby proves their half-knowledge, I don’t even need to portray as incompetent...
 

Escroda

2020-09-15 07:37:23
  • #3
The breakdown of your request for quotation, which is initially to be rated as exemplary, suggests that you already know the exact requirements of the building authority. After all, you provided the official site plan to the bidders. That the surveyor, who is not publicly appointed, did not address this lies in the nature of the matter, since he can hardly earn anything from the entire contract if he would have to outsource this item as well. So he simply assumes that the site plan, as in about 80% of cases, does not have to be official. The question would then be how he deals with it if, during the approval process, the necessity of an official site plan does indeed arise. The same also applies for the foundation inspection of the other offers. One offers it officially, the other unofficially (well – there is only a €93 net difference). Your breakdown of the site plan contents can also cause confusion. In the development plan area, b) would not be necessary, but the floor area ratio / plot ratio calculation, which was not requested and also not offered by the publicly appointed surveyor, would be required. It is more complicated than it initially appears. To find the cheapest provider, you have to clarify some things in advance that may also cost fees, which the surveyor would actually clarify if he receives the order.
 

Mickykitty

2020-09-15 15:25:51
  • #4
I have taken the list from the construction contract of my house provider. Unfortunately, I did not notice that the calculation of the floor area ratio AND the plot ratio is missing in the list... (as already mentioned, I am doing all this for the first time....)

The following results came from my phone calls today: The land registry office had no idea and immediately referred me to the building authority. In a conversation with a city building councilor, I was informed that it is common practice to submit an official site plan, even if it is not strictly necessary. Because whether it is necessary or not would only be checked upon the submission of a non-official site plan. And if the caseworker then thinks they actually need an official site plan, the processing time of the building application is delayed due to the additional request. And naturally, nobody wants that... Therefore, in practice, it is handled in such a way that an official site plan is generally submitted, even if the regulation does not require it in most cases.

Even though I myself am a caseworker in an authority and write official decisions, building law is unfamiliar to me. Therefore, I cannot assess with absolute certainty whether we definitely do not need an official site plan. Of course, we do not want to risk a delay in the processing of the building application. Therefore, my current view on our further procedure is: commission an official site plan from the publicly appointed surveyor (costs €2100 according to the fee schedule) and commission the rest from the non-publicly appointed surveyor.
 

K1300S

2020-09-15 15:34:42
  • #5
I would rather talk to the official surveyor to see if he can do it for the same price. He has to go out there anyway and can probably offer it at a reasonable price if you give him the right arguments.
 

moHouse

2020-09-15 15:59:25
  • #6
Thanks for the info So basically, you are buying the insurance for the additional cost that there will be no further claims at least up to this point during the process. hm...
 

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