Sliding door does not completely disappear into the wall

  • Erstellt am 2024-12-13 13:23:11

Yaso2.0

2024-12-13 16:30:45
  • #1
did you communicate it that way? We also have a sliding door running into the wall, and it protrudes just like yours due to the handle recess. Does it bother you, or is it about the appearance? It doesn't bother us.
 

ateliersiegel

2024-12-13 16:35:40
  • #2
If there is enough space to fully recess the door, I would try to "retrofit" that. Sure, it works like this too and there's no need to get gray hairs over it, but I find it much nicer when it's "completely gone." One question is whether there are other reasons besides the handle that prevent it from disappearing completely, which may not be visible from the outside? The handle, at least, is not a real reason. It can also be installed "on site."
 

Arauki11

2024-12-13 18:59:46
  • #3
Of course, it is better to communicate something like that in advance. Nevertheless, it is the case that a craftsman who likes to invoke the "craftsman's honor" for himself claims to be a recognized expert and should point me, as a layperson, to the various possibilities. I see the craftsman as having an obligation to provide for the paying layperson/customer. If, as a customer, you perhaps don’t even know that, you can’t ask about it; I probably wouldn’t have thought to mention it explicitly either. I have been to the dentist more frequently lately, and he explained all the options available to me. Every solution had its advantages and disadvantages, as well as risks and costs, and in the end, I, as the customer, decided which of these viable options I wanted. That’s how it has to be. Whether it is the executing craftsman or the one responsible for the finishing selection, I do very much see a duty to advise from that direction. I cannot share the partly uncritical view of my predecessors on this matter, because this "carpenter" actually claims that there is no other way. That is obviously and unquestionably a lie, and he knows it too. He should have rather said that he always does it that way or that it looks nicer that way, but to say that it’s simply not possible is obviously not the truth and therefore, in my opinion, not a fair way to deal with the customer. Maybe I have an old-fashioned expectation of a craftsman, but they now charge very well for their work, and I pay that, but I expect good work and the necessary explanation for it, and I want to be satisfied afterwards. The general remark "you could have asked" is not appropriate, especially with the many details in building a house that a layperson cannot and does not have to consider all of. That is exactly why you hire a so-called expert and not some random hobby handyman.
 

MachsSelbst

2024-12-14 00:39:11
  • #4
The usual wishful thinking "The craftsman must be able to guess what I wanted..."

No, he does not have to. And it doesn't change anything that the client is a layperson. Even a layperson can be expected to be able to express their wishes somewhat understandably. The sentence "I want the sliding door to disappear into the wall." my 7-year-old daughter can easily formulate and even write down without mistakes... so I also believe an adult can do that.

To accuse the carpenter here of lying. Well. Perhaps he is a carpenter very set in his ways who really can't imagine any other solution. Lies and fraud are accusations that should be made with great caution...
 

ypg

2024-12-14 01:00:42
  • #5

Yes, there are quite a few things you can additionally order if you go online to a door ordering page. A door is like everything else a kind of modular system. If nothing is mentioned, then you basically get the naked version.

Well, what is standard? There are several standards. Take your kitchen window, for example, that’s not a standard. A lower window has to be ordered separately.
For me, an oven at eye level is standard; do you have a below-standard unit installed? Certainly not.

I would leave it as is. I also admit: I find it more elegant this way and it apparently fits well with the rest of the furnishings, so everything is a bit more "playful" than in a high-gloss house.
Total recessing is not as quick and easy to operate as it is here: fingertips in the handle recess when passing through and the door is closed, instead of fiddling with the little knob. I would use total recessing where the door is only supposed to be closed about three times a year at most.
 

tomtom79

2024-12-14 06:09:06
  • #6

And that is exactly the mistake, the door disappears into the wall but not completely. Presumably, the text should also have been flush with the surface there.
 

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