Single-family house on a slope, floor plan: timber frame construction and precast concrete basement

If in your plan the toilet shifts further towards the top of the plan, then you quickly end up also in that 150 cm height range.

Exactly in the middle of this area it is 160 cm. The shower was reduced by 10 cm to 140 cm

The problem continues, here is the original floor plan, because it contains the height lines.:


The shower also only starts at the 200 cm height line.

Therefore, we turned the shower around, the showerhead is placed on the door side. It also has the advantage that when stepping out of the shower you don’t walk through the entrance area with wet feet.

Can’t the roof be made steeper?

The building application has already been submitted and we would then have too much empty space below the ceiling because we don’t have a roof peak (didn’t want one).

Or maybe take the space in the hallway up to the stairs.

We would have to take exactly 70 cm due to our rafter ceiling. Then turn the shower 90°? Then a big "hole" behind the shower would emerge where the toilet would be located. And we would lose the space in the hallway to clean the skylight and place the scratching post for the cats there. I have to discuss the solution with my wife, I have already thought about it, but I couldn’t really warm up to it.

In any case, the architect’s layout of the bathroom makes more sense. Both regarding the toilet and the bathtub. The shower remains, there the showerhead can’t be at the top of the plan but has to be on the left wall of the plan.

Exactly, that was already turned around

: You meant it like that?

We'll just end up with a lot of empty space. But we could still plan for a towel radiator *g*

Basically mentioned, I do not believe in floor plan discussions after the building permit application has been submitted. It is pointless to make improvements that are then poorly argued away because it is too late for changes anyway.

Why wouldn’t it be allowed? The workplace ordinance surely does not apply here. Besides, in our current apartment, the corner bathtub probably wasn’t placed directly against the outer wall either. As I said, we have the same roof pitch and roof structure inside with rafters, and it would be like if we pushed the corner bathtub another 60 cm upwards. Would the installer not be allowed to do that either? But he did, and the building was built by a developer.

There are little things you can’t Google. Of course, the workplace ordinance does not apply! But there are standards and guidelines. As you can already see, the toilet is pushed into the corner; whether one wants it that way, even just from a visual point of view, is questionable. But a master plumber has learned the standards and could risk his reputation if he installs the toilet in an area that renders it unusable. We are talking about finished floor level—are the tiles already included in that calculation? Also, the wall will probably be tiled on the side... these are rough construction dimensions; then comes the plaster, and on top of that, the tiles...

Individual testing is surely the best option here, since after all, we live in it and it has to fit us.

Guidelines are there to be followed, preferably with more clearance than the minimum. There is no need to compare with the very lowest standards...

Since the master plumber will be called in later by the contractor anyway, he will struggle with the lack of space. Of course, he will install it for you because he has no other choice.

I find it somewhat questionable that more priority is given to a scratching post than to a bathroom installation, but ultimately I do not have to live in the house, nor will I be confronted with the defect as a master plumber, and I will not want to buy the house later either. It’s just a pity: three large! floors are built, the lower one only becomes useful later, and upstairs it is so cramped that furnishing the bathroom just causes problems—if you as the builder don’t just sugarcoat everything. We are talking about a standard floor plan with larger dimensions that should actually provide space everywhere. I wish for you that the architect/planner will still pay attention to the toilet with regard to the bathroom and shift some things. As I understand it, you will not point that out to him.

Regards, Yvonne

I'll put it this way ... the toilet just doesn't fit there. Rooms with these sloping ceilings are always problematic.

Briefly outlined .. door relocated and a small recess built as storage space accessible from the hallway.


It will probably be difficult with mirrors. Possibly have the door open outwards.

There is simply a lot of space below 2 m room height.

I'll put it this way ... the toilet just doesn't fit there. Rooms with these sloping ceilings are always problematic. Briefly outlined .. door relocated and a small recess for storage accessible from the hallway added.

That would basically also be an idea, thanks. But then I still have to see where the laundry chute goes, it is currently directly behind the recess. It runs on the ground floor along the wall side straight through the office and into the utility room. At the current toilet it would come out in the guest WC and there is no more space. There are probably only the two possible variants: my current plan or the double casement window above the toilet.

There is just a lot of area under 2 m room height.

That is mainly due to the development plan, with its eaves height of 4m.

Laundry chute ... where was it until now?
In the ground floor plan, it is in the outer upper corner of the study


Upstairs, right above there, you are then very far under the slope. That’s hard to use.

Will the ground floor remain as drawn with the shower (shower door facing where?) And, wardrobe where?