Michilo
2021-02-24 10:21:46
- #1
Where did the architect make major changes? He took your house exterior dimensions and entered your plan with reasonable wall thicknesses. This way, the rooms shrink.
Single-family house on 480 m² (approx. 8x9m external dimensions) feedback
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Nice-Nofret
2021-02-24 13:34:46
- #2
Please upload the cadastral map of both properties; it might make sense in terms of price/performance to plan a semi-detached house or a terraced house.
Tassimat
2021-02-24 15:38:14
- #3
At which exact point? If I look at the width of the ground floor and the kitchen, it cannot be any wider, because due to wall thicknesses and other minimum thicknesses, only 2.6 m remain instead of your 3.4 m. But be careful, the real room loses even more centimeters for the interior plaster. Accordingly, the architect omitted the door from the hallway to the kitchen. What does the draftsman say when you address him about the deviations? Also note the light wells for the basement, which collide with your desired terrace.I myself am honestly not satisfied with the architect's first draft, as it deviates too much from my plans and I see many disadvantages in it.
Birdie84
2021-02-25 18:18:38
- #4
Hi everyone,
thank you very much for your comments/opinions/criticism.
I am trying to address everything from you.
Yes, the plans in the first post are my own creations.
When it comes to the basement, I always think of my father's words, who says that you can never get a basement under a house again! :)
Since I am only being transferred half of this plot (about 480 sqm), I am limited in space.
For this reason, too, a basement makes sense.
Where else would you put the utility room, laundry room, pantry, hobby room?
Of course, I would like to build bigger, but it is also a matter of cost.
A double garage is only planned for now, but will be built over time.
Regarding the size and the related problem with the "Hinkelstein" appearance, I agree with you. That is why I want to gather your suggestions for improvement.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
My planning differs from the architect's draft in the following points:
- The arrangement of the windows. I have thought about why, for example, I do not want a floor-to-ceiling window in the living room facing south.
I want to avoid having a couch, which is supposed to stand along this wall, in front of a floor-to-ceiling window.
From the outside, the uniformly arranged windows on the south side look very good, but in my opinion, they are not practical.
- The missing door from the hallway to the kitchen. This is indispensable for me. I do not want to have to walk through the living room with every grocery shopping to get to the kitchen. Or when my girlfriend visits, she doesn't have to walk through my living room every time. Or if one just quickly wants to get to the kitchen, they shouldn't have to walk through the living room every time. ;)
- The window arrangement of the staircase. I only want a window above the stairs (from the ceiling of the ground floor/upper floor).
- No vestibule. I like having a vestibule because you don't have to heat everything and you enjoy more privacy.
- Double door from the hallway into the living room. I think otherwise it will be too narrow. Especially since the fireplace is planned to the left of the door and a living wall with TV, etc. is supposed to be placed to the right.
- Window arrangement in the bathroom (upper floor). I am not happy with this solution. Also, from the outside, it is not really symmetrical.
- No windows facing west on the upper floor. (There are windows planned there in my design.)
- Large hobby room in the basement and through it to reach another separate room? I actually like a large room in the basement, but I don’t know if it makes sense to be able to get to a room in the basement only by going through another hardly used room? ;)
- Size distribution of the entire floor plan is not symmetrical. (PS: I like symmetry) ;)
The staircase is about 30 cm off-center in the house. This could be avoided by extending the entire house by about 32 cm!
Instead of 8.99 x 7.99 m ---> 9.31 x 7.99 m ?
- The roof pitch... I know that the relatively steep roof pitch makes the house very tall, but I thought you should be able to stand in the middle of the attic. The neighbor's house is built almost identically and has 2 full floors with 2.50 m each, a basement with 2.40 m, and a 35° roof. House size 8.24 x 10.99 m.
Hi! And thanks for your advice.
I would have liked to build two staggered semi-detached houses myself, as the plot is simply suitable for that.
However, in the end, everyone prefers a detached house – or not? ;)
That is why the narrow plots with a width of about 12 m each are to be newly divided so that you can build not side by side, but one behind the other. Detached! ;)
Hi. Thank you too for your tips!
I have already tried to take the interior plaster into account in my planning. (But I am also a layman ;) )
The three steps from the terrace to the garden are only a rough plan. I actually intend to level the plot so that everything is approximately at the same height. (Courtyard, house, garden, street)
We are with the architects at the first preliminary draft !!
So everything is still in the green.
And again for understanding, before anyone thinks wrong, I explicitly told the architect:
"I have been fixed on my preliminary planning for years now and he should please incorporate his own ideas" :)
However, I am still more satisfied with my planning because I now realize why, for example, I don't want a floor-to-ceiling window too far to the east in the living room. Because then the couch would be in front of the window. (Just as an example)
It is not the architect, who certainly knows better than a private individual, who has to live his whole life in this house, but the builder who has to live in it. Therefore, I think it is not wrong to communicate your ideas to the architect and commission him to create an affordable and feasible construction project! ;)
Thank you again very much for all your suggestions and I look forward to your answers!
If I have overlooked anything, please point it out to me.
Have a nice evening and sorry for the long text.
Regards, Birdie
thank you very much for your comments/opinions/criticism.
I am trying to address everything from you.
Yes, the plans in the first post are my own creations.
When it comes to the basement, I always think of my father's words, who says that you can never get a basement under a house again! :)
Since I am only being transferred half of this plot (about 480 sqm), I am limited in space.
For this reason, too, a basement makes sense.
Where else would you put the utility room, laundry room, pantry, hobby room?
Of course, I would like to build bigger, but it is also a matter of cost.
A double garage is only planned for now, but will be built over time.
Regarding the size and the related problem with the "Hinkelstein" appearance, I agree with you. That is why I want to gather your suggestions for improvement.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
My planning differs from the architect's draft in the following points:
- The arrangement of the windows. I have thought about why, for example, I do not want a floor-to-ceiling window in the living room facing south.
I want to avoid having a couch, which is supposed to stand along this wall, in front of a floor-to-ceiling window.
From the outside, the uniformly arranged windows on the south side look very good, but in my opinion, they are not practical.
- The missing door from the hallway to the kitchen. This is indispensable for me. I do not want to have to walk through the living room with every grocery shopping to get to the kitchen. Or when my girlfriend visits, she doesn't have to walk through my living room every time. Or if one just quickly wants to get to the kitchen, they shouldn't have to walk through the living room every time. ;)
- The window arrangement of the staircase. I only want a window above the stairs (from the ceiling of the ground floor/upper floor).
- No vestibule. I like having a vestibule because you don't have to heat everything and you enjoy more privacy.
- Double door from the hallway into the living room. I think otherwise it will be too narrow. Especially since the fireplace is planned to the left of the door and a living wall with TV, etc. is supposed to be placed to the right.
- Window arrangement in the bathroom (upper floor). I am not happy with this solution. Also, from the outside, it is not really symmetrical.
- No windows facing west on the upper floor. (There are windows planned there in my design.)
- Large hobby room in the basement and through it to reach another separate room? I actually like a large room in the basement, but I don’t know if it makes sense to be able to get to a room in the basement only by going through another hardly used room? ;)
- Size distribution of the entire floor plan is not symmetrical. (PS: I like symmetry) ;)
The staircase is about 30 cm off-center in the house. This could be avoided by extending the entire house by about 32 cm!
Instead of 8.99 x 7.99 m ---> 9.31 x 7.99 m ?
- The roof pitch... I know that the relatively steep roof pitch makes the house very tall, but I thought you should be able to stand in the middle of the attic. The neighbor's house is built almost identically and has 2 full floors with 2.50 m each, a basement with 2.40 m, and a 35° roof. House size 8.24 x 10.99 m.
Hi! And thanks for your advice.
I would have liked to build two staggered semi-detached houses myself, as the plot is simply suitable for that.
However, in the end, everyone prefers a detached house – or not? ;)
That is why the narrow plots with a width of about 12 m each are to be newly divided so that you can build not side by side, but one behind the other. Detached! ;)
Hi. Thank you too for your tips!
I have already tried to take the interior plaster into account in my planning. (But I am also a layman ;) )
The three steps from the terrace to the garden are only a rough plan. I actually intend to level the plot so that everything is approximately at the same height. (Courtyard, house, garden, street)
We are with the architects at the first preliminary draft !!
So everything is still in the green.
And again for understanding, before anyone thinks wrong, I explicitly told the architect:
"I have been fixed on my preliminary planning for years now and he should please incorporate his own ideas" :)
However, I am still more satisfied with my planning because I now realize why, for example, I don't want a floor-to-ceiling window too far to the east in the living room. Because then the couch would be in front of the window. (Just as an example)
It is not the architect, who certainly knows better than a private individual, who has to live his whole life in this house, but the builder who has to live in it. Therefore, I think it is not wrong to communicate your ideas to the architect and commission him to create an affordable and feasible construction project! ;)
Thank you again very much for all your suggestions and I look forward to your answers!
If I have overlooked anything, please point it out to me.
Have a nice evening and sorry for the long text.
Regards, Birdie
Ralle90
2021-02-25 20:29:06
- #5
The plan by the architect reminds me a lot of our house. We have external dimensions of 9.60x7.60. Just as a suggestion, because you said you don’t want to always walk through the living room when you have to go to the kitchen. Would it be possible to swap the kitchen and living room? That’s how it is in our house. However, the area where the kitchen is now should then be wider for the living area. So the hallway should become narrower. We only have a quarter-turn staircase. It takes up less space then. However, I don’t know if that would work for you because of the floor height. For us, when you enter the front door, the stairs go up immediately on the right. Immediately to the left of the front door is also the WC, and after the door to the WC on the left on the wall is the coat rack. Where your coat rack is, we have the pantry or utility room, which is then accessible from the kitchen. Maybe that could be an option for you too.
ypg
2021-02-25 21:50:28
- #6
I read the first part of your post about 2 hours ago and had absolutely no desire to reply.
However, you also have the right to be shown reality!
Regarding the symmetry of the staircase
... you are, for me ... not mature behind the ears.
Why should one take a 2D drawing, which you can neither feel nor see in the house, as a design function? You only do that when it comes to a chalet where paparazzi often fly over with helicopters... but even then, it is only the house or roof shape and not the wall positions.
Think about what is symmetrical about the oddly narrow "vestibule." Or your kitchen door. Or your staircase :eek:
And what exactly did you want to tell him with this diametrical statement?
Isn't that a bit embarrassing? Please reflect on that for yourself.
Yes... exactly... and why are you now listing such trivial matters that can be fixed with a felt-tip pen?
Yep, you do that verbally and not with a dogmatic but limited amateur plan. If you had done that, you would probably have gotten a somewhat more thought-out plan where a graduate can apply what he has learned and gladly does so. Basically, you gave him the order to be unmotivated and rank on his stack as “to be done after 6 pm” or with the intern who just stamps but is still learning and therefore forgets many details.
Without a smiley, those are true words.
P.s. A semi-detached house is apparently the only sensible option here.
However, you also have the right to be shown reality!
Regarding the symmetry of the staircase
Size distribution of the entire floor plan is not symmetrical.
The staircase is about 30 cm off-center in the house.
... you are, for me ... not mature behind the ears.
Why should one take a 2D drawing, which you can neither feel nor see in the house, as a design function? You only do that when it comes to a chalet where paparazzi often fly over with helicopters... but even then, it is only the house or roof shape and not the wall positions.
Think about what is symmetrical about the oddly narrow "vestibule." Or your kitchen door. Or your staircase :eek:
I specifically told the architect:
"I have been fixated on my preliminary planning for years now and he should please integrate his own ideas" :)
And what exactly did you want to tell him with this diametrical statement?
Isn't that a bit embarrassing? Please reflect on that for yourself.
We are with the architect at the first preliminary draft!!
Yes... exactly... and why are you now listing such trivial matters that can be fixed with a felt-tip pen?
to communicate his ideas
Yep, you do that verbally and not with a dogmatic but limited amateur plan. If you had done that, you would probably have gotten a somewhat more thought-out plan where a graduate can apply what he has learned and gladly does so. Basically, you gave him the order to be unmotivated and rank on his stack as “to be done after 6 pm” or with the intern who just stamps but is still learning and therefore forgets many details.
I am also an amateur
Without a smiley, those are true words.
P.s. A semi-detached house is apparently the only sensible option here.