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DNL

2014-10-08 16:12:54
  • #1
The BKI data is not freely accessible. I got the number from an architect.
 

Bauexperte

2014-10-09 13:27:16
  • #2
Hello,


For example, we built for customers both in Rösrath (2009) and Bergisch Gladbach (2012). In 2009, the price per sqm was still €1,250.00 (already with underfloor heating, but still gas condensing boiler – so not today’s KfW 70), in 2012 it was already €1,400.00 (also with underfloor heating, still gas condensing boiler – so still not today’s KfW 70) and today around €1,550.00 (KfW 70 is standard); all information according to Standard BB, so without further extras, such as a ventilation system, for example. By 01/01/2015, prices will increase by another 3-5%; some trades have already increased prices as of 10/01/14. By 01/01/16 it will get very expensive because from then on the new Energy Saving Ordinance must be fully implemented.

Internet calculators are not a reliable source; they never have been. But the information from your architect also does not match my experience. Unless he offers the lowest standard according to the Energy Saving Ordinance that I can imagine. Whether you can be happy with that is something you have to decide for yourself; if KfW loans come into play, it will not be easy for you, and the price per sqm will increase sharply.

Edit: sqm prices refer exclusively to the Düsseldorf-Cologne region

Rhine greetings
 

Bolzen

2014-10-09 19:39:03
  • #3
Hello Bauexperte, I must insist on the second "b" here. Lübbecke Best regards
 

ypg

2014-10-09 20:00:57
  • #4
I don’t know to what extent you can endure burdens (physical + mental)... but if your back doesn’t give out at some point, then your mind will be the one that eventually starts to hate the construction. This results in you withdrawing from everything, and if not physically, then with a lot of inner distancing from your partner and family, because after all, they’re all to blame for you feeling bad. On the other hand, you might be reproached for no longer having time for life at home and for yourself... But enough of the sugarcoating : 20000 won’t be saved on flooring and painting work. Try it... - extending your day’s work after hours - only the buffer should be there if you can’t or don’t want to go on anymore.

During our 3-week vacation, we only painted inside... ...
 

DerBjoern

2014-10-10 09:05:12
  • #5
I agree with ypg. It’s quite something to want to do so much yourself. We did the painting/flooring, kitchen assembly (Ikea), and the entire outdoor area ourselves. By Christmas last year, the house was at a point where we started preparing for the painting (We spent the entire Christmas sanding and filling). Just the preparation for wallpapering (walls and ceilings) took about a week. Despite 4 weeks of vacation and every evening and every weekend working on it, we still weren’t finished inside by the move-in date in mid-February. I still am not finished today. In a few rooms, baseboards are still missing, the laundry chute is not yet covered or usable, the attic (tongue-and-groove boards) is not completely finished, and here and there there are still construction lamps hanging, etc. etc.
At the end of March, I started with the outdoor area. Foundations, graveling, paving, building the carport, building the tool shed, landscaping the garden, wooden terrace, etc. Just properly managing all the heights everywhere was an effort, despite the flat plot. On one side, I had to completely secure it with L-shaped stones because the house is 50cm above the street and I wanted to keep the garden as level as possible. Just setting 30m of L-stones takes 2-3 weekends. It all takes a lot of time. And you don’t think about stuff like that beforehand. I am currently at the point where I’m finishing the tool shed in the carport. Then in the next few weeks I’ll still plant a few trees and a hedge. Then I’ll be roughly done outside. Then I can finish the remaining work inside the house and hopefully be finished by the end of the year.



I can confirm that. Especially when you’re standing outside alone with the shovel in the rain in front of a 10m³ pile of gravel, at that moment the partner is to blame. For the big pile, the bad weather, and that the shovel is actually 3cm too small for your height.

Counting on help from acquaintances can also go wrong quickly. I did everything alone, with partial help from my father and father-in-law. At the beginning, you get help from friends on one or the other Saturday. But it quickly becomes apparent that nobody offers help selflessly anymore.

If I’m hopefully halfway done by Christmas, then I will have invested every Friday afternoon, whole Saturdays, many Sundays, every holiday, many evenings, and over 40 vacation days alone for the house over the course of 1 year! And I built it turnkey without painting and flooring! I only did the painting, flooring, carport, and outdoor areas myself...

Regarding saving potential. You can never save that much with painting and flooring. I saved a few thousand euros here compared to the offer from my general contractor. But with the outdoor area including the carport, I saved a lot of money. About 15,000.
 

Umbau-Susi

2014-10-10 09:17:14
  • #6
In GDR times, many people, out of necessity, largely built their own houses. In the healthcare system, we had a very clear trend. When the house was finished, the self-builder had a herniated disc, a heart attack, or no one left to move into the new house with him. If it was really bad, the wife moved in alone because he only survived the house construction by 14 days. Often, several of these factors occurred together. Sylvia
 

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