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Tassimat

2019-08-29 23:13:03
  • #1

Your wife apparently did not work before, hence the low parental allowance stretched over 2 years.
Is it to be expected that she will work in the future?

The sibling bonus is missing from the parental allowance!

Your calculation for the necessary loan is strange. You cannot deduct the personal contribution from the total costs, rather material costs are added.

I see it exactly like HilfeHilfe, it’s heading straight towards 500k and full financing.
It still works with the income, but big leaps for holidays with two children are no longer possible. Therefore, once again the question: Does your wife intend to work?
 

Tassimat

2019-08-29 23:22:43
  • #2
Oh yes....
Currently: Savings of €600 + rent including utilities of €1600 = €2200
With house: €1400 loan (rather more), €200 KfW, €400 house, €200 kitchen = €2200
Additional daycare costs and you are in the red.

Private health insurance is also bad... an absolute disaster for families
 

Tassimat

2019-08-30 08:42:11
  • #3
I have to follow up once more, even if it gets rather harsh. Please don’t take it the wrong way.



For someone who keeps a detailed household budget book, your financial planning is pure chaos. At least as it is presented here:


If I quickly recalculate that, I see that only 4,600 remain per month.

What remains is the savings contribution for the house of 600€. I find that quite low. I would also avoid this separation into emergency fund and house. Why not simply: savings contribution 750€, equity 50,000€, of which 30,000€ are to be put into the financing. One sentence, everything crystal clear.


This answers some questions I had last night, but what will she earn part-time in the hospitality sector?


This description is ambiguous. I interpret it as additional costs of 450€. Not much remains from the wife's salary for luxury.
 

dropss89

2019-08-30 09:40:10
  • #4
Thank you very much for your responses so far!


Don’t worry, bring it on! Without the expectation of critical questions and your well-known hard-hitting manner, I wouldn’t have posted at all. Since we don’t know each other personally, I also take nothing personally here.

I hope now I can clear up a few uncertainties:

1.) Baukindergeld ( ): as I wrote, we don’t include that at all. We know it exists, but I don’t want to factor it in because of the mentioned uncertainties.
2.) The kitchen will be covered by a separate loan; I will NOT use equity for that. It’s planned to run for 3 years and will cost about €340. Accordingly, we will be OVER our self-imposed limit for the first 3 years.
3.)

Absolutely right. But since it is only paid for the first 6 months, I don’t include it. In principle, I want to exclude my wife’s income, no matter what form, to have a small buffer. She will definitely go back to work, if only for the health insurance and because staying at home otherwise will slowly drive her crazy.
4.) Own contributions: I count them as “muscle equity” towards equity and have not deducted them from the house price. Accordingly, the material costs are priced into the loan.
5.)

Thanks ^^ I compiled and calculated the data for the requested overview here. Accordingly, there are discrepancies. Maybe I made a presentation error, but I don’t want to upload my Excel here. The fact is: I have lived this way with my household planning for a decade and miraculously it works out every month.
Out of the €8k, I actually receive more than €5k net due to the private health insurance (yes, for families with more than one child it is expensive, but so far we are cheaper compared to statutory health insurance. On the other hand, here in the metropolitan area it’s advantageous for my boys because they get appointments faster—people can think what they want about that; I find it antisocial, but we all live in this system and have to get the best out of it for ourselves—and all medications are reimbursed without co-payments. That is worth the extra cost to me.) If I subtract the health insurance from the amount I am paid, €5k remain. I use that for all fixed costs. Whatever is left over gets transferred to a household account, onto which income (currently child benefit and parental allowance) is also deposited. From that we pay the variable costs.
6.)

Okay, then like this.
7.) She will earn about €750 NET per day with 5 hours/day depending on the job here in the area. We calculate €600, but since it should not go into the financing and cannot when applying (since it does not exist yet), everything plus.
8.)

Correct, the €450 comes on top. Not much remains then, we are aware of that. It should come out about the same as now, due to the additional burden with the house. Also aware of that and we accept that we can only afford holidays with grandma in the garden or at the Baltic Sea for the first few years at least.
 

halmi

2019-08-30 11:17:45
  • #5
Do you already have the mentioned equity capital? I don't quite understand that. By the time you move into the house, you will have easily saved up for the kitchen and won't need to finance it.

You wrote a lot, but I think it would be more useful if you list the numbers with + and - below each other and then draw a line.
 

ypg

2019-08-30 11:32:29
  • #6


This can cover the childcare costs. Also the courses for the children... Nice

I am a bit confused regarding the calculation. There are items that will be higher in 2 years. Therefore, I would ALWAYS add something on top. For example:


1000


100


330


10, the house will be bigger, so a higher rate


700, instead of 2.5 eaters you'll have 3.5 in two years...


? Calculate with €80


Also there: 450?


€30? Kids’ sports club? +x€


That will also be more for zoo and leisure activities like fair, outdoor pool, etc. double that? €100



After the fuel item, you will be dependent on one or two new cars. I would possibly set a higher savings rate there, or will it be that you only lease from then on?




Here too, I would take a round sum of €40,000 for outdoor facilities instead of an odd amount. Also round total costs up to around €400,000.

That’s how I would calculate to cover the unexpected. That you add 5% more "in two years" remains unaffected, since your income will also adjust.

And then you have to calculate €500 ancillary costs for the house. This includes building insurance etc. Even if it is only €400, then at least the lawn mower is included.

That’s how I would calculate it anyway
 

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