cryptoflam
2022-01-29 22:31:22
- #1
Hello everyone,
my wife and I, together with her mother, have decided to convert the existing single-family house into a multi-generational house. Unfortunately, the house is not large enough to accommodate two households, and the roof is not yet insulated. Besides an extension, there is also a need for renovation.
I will now summarize our experiences with our general contractor (GC), as we are currently very uncertain about how to proceed.
In short: Are we too naive, or do we simply have the wrong expectations?
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In January 2021, on recommendation, we got in touch with a GC, who inspected the house with us and we discussed our ideas with him. Afterwards, he gave us an offer for the planning phase, which we started with his wife as the architect.
We asked for a rough cost estimate for the entire project for the first time here. Our GC only said that without plans he would find it difficult to give a price but promised to follow up on this before the building application.
The Planning
Since the planned extension requires approval, we decided together with the architect to create a preliminary plan and use this as the basis for a preliminary building inquiry at our building authority.
Our building authority now fundamentally rejects preliminary inquiries and only answers concrete requests. So this means planning and hoping ... (2 drafts for nothing)
The planning phase progressed sluggishly, as the architect repeatedly forgot agreements and we had to remind her of previous points during the meetings. Additionally, the first two plans missed the access to the existing basement, which then caused problems in the developed plans.
Between June and December, we worked on 4 drafts with her.
We are now aware that we probably refined too many details.
A year later, we have a draft with which we are 90% satisfied. In hindsight, it would probably have been better to move forward directly with the 70% solution.
Then came the big day of the rough cost estimate. We sat down with our GC and discussed the desired qualities, etc.
Yesterday, we received an email from our GC that his brother (who runs the construction company) cannot perform a cost calculation without structural engineering and formwork/reinforcement plans. (Cost for this: 2,500€).
We are now somewhat shocked and at a loss:
We have already spent nearly €11,000 on the architect’s plans without knowing whether the entire renovation project is even feasible for us.
The existing plans have neither been checked by a structural engineer nor is it clear whether the planned extension will be approved in its current form.
Our GC still resists giving us a cost framework and "uses" the structural engineering as the reason.
(Surveyors, energy consultants, etc. are of course also still missing.)
We currently worry that this is getting out of hand and that there is an uneasy feeling about the whole thing.
I would appreciate any advice.
My main questions:
Is this all normal? Are we simply too inexperienced?
Should we look for another opinion / another GC, etc.?
Thanks!
my wife and I, together with her mother, have decided to convert the existing single-family house into a multi-generational house. Unfortunately, the house is not large enough to accommodate two households, and the roof is not yet insulated. Besides an extension, there is also a need for renovation.
I will now summarize our experiences with our general contractor (GC), as we are currently very uncertain about how to proceed.
In short: Are we too naive, or do we simply have the wrong expectations?
______
In January 2021, on recommendation, we got in touch with a GC, who inspected the house with us and we discussed our ideas with him. Afterwards, he gave us an offer for the planning phase, which we started with his wife as the architect.
We asked for a rough cost estimate for the entire project for the first time here. Our GC only said that without plans he would find it difficult to give a price but promised to follow up on this before the building application.
The Planning
Since the planned extension requires approval, we decided together with the architect to create a preliminary plan and use this as the basis for a preliminary building inquiry at our building authority.
Our building authority now fundamentally rejects preliminary inquiries and only answers concrete requests. So this means planning and hoping ... (2 drafts for nothing)
The planning phase progressed sluggishly, as the architect repeatedly forgot agreements and we had to remind her of previous points during the meetings. Additionally, the first two plans missed the access to the existing basement, which then caused problems in the developed plans.
Between June and December, we worked on 4 drafts with her.
We are now aware that we probably refined too many details.
A year later, we have a draft with which we are 90% satisfied. In hindsight, it would probably have been better to move forward directly with the 70% solution.
Then came the big day of the rough cost estimate. We sat down with our GC and discussed the desired qualities, etc.
Yesterday, we received an email from our GC that his brother (who runs the construction company) cannot perform a cost calculation without structural engineering and formwork/reinforcement plans. (Cost for this: 2,500€).
We are now somewhat shocked and at a loss:
We have already spent nearly €11,000 on the architect’s plans without knowing whether the entire renovation project is even feasible for us.
The existing plans have neither been checked by a structural engineer nor is it clear whether the planned extension will be approved in its current form.
Our GC still resists giving us a cost framework and "uses" the structural engineering as the reason.
(Surveyors, energy consultants, etc. are of course also still missing.)
We currently worry that this is getting out of hand and that there is an uneasy feeling about the whole thing.
I would appreciate any advice.
My main questions:
Is this all normal? Are we simply too inexperienced?
Should we look for another opinion / another GC, etc.?
Thanks!