Realistic financing or cost plan

  • Erstellt am 2014-10-30 13:28:28

toxicmolotof

2014-10-31 10:26:55
  • #1


No, no, no... never! No extras, no basement, no bay window, nothing, standard sanitary, not even upper floors, not to mention design.

Without knowing the measurements, you are certainly at 750m^3. That would correspond to a price of under 300 Euro/m^3 or 1200 Euro gross per m^2.

Just to be safe, set aside an additional 30,000 Euros, you will still be surprised.
 

Bauexperte

2014-10-31 10:28:26
  • #2
Hello,


Rather less...


I am aware that almost every builder who wants to engage in a lot of own work does not want to hear (read) my objections. Nevertheless, I repeat here: think it over carefully! It is not enough that friends/acquaintances/family promise to help; they have to consistently stay committed. I can’t answer how this looks with a club, but I think their members also lead their own lives ;)

Starting from the erected shell, professionals need about 3–4 months for the interior finishing, depending on the house size – but they are then constantly on site. Can / do your friends/acquaintances/family manage this constant double load for about 1 to 1.5 years – not just in words – but really? Have you also thought about the worst-case scenario? What if defects occur, warranty claims arise? Can the connection of friends/acquaintances/family definitely withstand this or is there rather a risk that – when the single-family house is finally finished – the circle of friends/acquaintances/family cracks badly?


I will now answer from my point of view with a counter-question: why should I put effort into you/your construction project (the temporary contact between builder and me usually lasts 1 year), if in the end you get the cream and my performance is not rewarded?

Given the scope you have in mind, you should look for an architect and subcontract the trades as far as necessary. Then each craftsman knows where he stands and everyone is happy ;)

Rhineland greetings
 

lastdrop

2014-10-31 11:02:28
  • #3
There is no warranty for all the [Eigenleistungen]. In addition, all material costs remain unchanged.
 

Haeusle_bauer

2014-10-31 11:27:57
  • #4


Well, I calculated with the €3200. 14 monthly salaries are guaranteed for me, so the bank can count on a net income of €3628. I used several calculators and on average they came to a possible load according to the flat rates of about €1500. As I said: that’s too much for me.



Ok, thanks for your assessment. Still, I have the offer in hand. As described in the opening post, I have set aside about €20,000 cash. Of that, I plan €5,000 as pocket money for helpers. Then there will be an additional €20,000 emergency reserve. That brings me to a total of €35,000.



A good objection, and it is certainly true that not everyone is so persistent. But I expect that from my father and myself. I only need the others for specific tasks, so max 1-2 weekends. A longer construction period is not a big problem since we live cheaply and nearby in a rental.



I can well understand your point of view. But I also did not intend to find professional help here. In a forum one normally expects free help or assessments from other laypersons based on their experience. That’s how I also give my experiences free of charge in other forums. If I seek professional help (which I will certainly do when it gets serious) I will look for a consultant near me. In fact, I have already looked on your website where your company is located. Unfortunately, the distance is considerable.

Overall, through your feedback I come to the conclusion that building with a €300,000 budget is not reasonable. I will talk to my bank advisor about what is actually possible for me.
 

Haeusle_bauer

2014-10-31 11:28:57
  • #5


I am aware of that, material costs are factored in. Possibly too low.
 

Bauherren2014

2014-10-31 11:52:26
  • #6
It does not matter what your bank advisor says, but what YOU can realistically afford. The bank fees can only serve as a guideline, nothing more. Experience shows that they are significantly too low for the majority. The actual cost of living (especially with children) is usually much higher.
 
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