Private retirement provision and free saving alongside financing?

  • Erstellt am 2016-02-02 21:47:48

merlin83

2016-02-03 22:20:48
  • #1

...I only have the retirement provision that the law requires from me
 

Bieber0815

2016-02-03 22:27:21
  • #2
Do you think that will be enough in old age or will you just keep working? Or is that simply not a topic for you?
 

EveundGerd

2016-02-03 22:37:34
  • #3


Yes, I have had the Riester since the birth of our first child. And this “child“ is turning 21 this year.

The “150€” amount consistently goes into the instant access savings account. Whether special repayment or purchase.....that will be decided at short notice when the special repayment is due at the latest.
 

Bieber0815

2016-02-03 22:46:58
  • #4
Riester has existed since 2002 (Wikipedia). In 1995 (12 years ago) Norbert Blüm was Federal Minister. And it was only in 1998 that Maschmeyer supported Schröder in the state election campaign in Lower Saxony, who coincidentally propagated private pension provision for the first time(?). What kind of Riester contract do you have? Now I'm really digressing ...
 

merlin83

2016-02-03 22:56:59
  • #5
I. Just because I don't sign a retirement contract doesn't mean I have less money in old age. Money that doesn't go into the framework of a retirement contract is not necessarily spent foolishly (in my opinion, however, this is very often suggested by sellers).

II. The need usually decreases in old age; typically, loans should be paid off and one lives rent-free.

III. Anyone who builds a house is in a fairly decent income bracket, so the income in old age should still be sufficient.

I myself pay into another pot, but not only for that reason do I not worry about old age.
 

Vanben

2016-02-04 00:16:50
  • #6


This is, in my opinion, a strange but widespread attitude. The basis for any kind of wealth formation must first be protection against life-threatening risks. Health insurance is a good example of this, as is long-term care insurance or car liability insurance, all of which are legally mandated for good reason.

We basically follow the principle with insurance that we insure everything that would financially ruin us in the "worst case." In addition to those legally required, in our case these are: private liability, disability insurance, term life insurance, and supplementary long-term care insurance as a money market account (the latter because of the contraction obligation for newborns). For a single person, of course, the first two are sufficient...

As long as this security is not given, in my opinion, one should not even consider investing money, whether in real estate, stocks, pension insurances, money market accounts, or anything else. These things must be affordable in a double sense.

Specifically regarding your question: Although we do not yet have a mortgage to deal with, I would tend to put everything into repayment. Few people are probably hardened enough to gamble on the stock market alongside a few hundred thousand in mortgage debt, and besides, there are hardly any investment opportunities that offer a higher return (with maximum safety).
On the other hand, I consider it obvious that one should leave oneself enough money to live on (vacations, movies, food, purchases, etc.).

And yes, I may be a little security-oriented, but I am also no longer a single person in my early 20s.
 

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