Positioning of a single-family house in the second row on a farm

  • Erstellt am 2025-01-31 08:13:13

majo5254

2025-02-01 10:08:37
  • #1
Thank you very much for your feedback. That already helps us a lot with further considerations!



: That is a good point. I will have the wording in the building permit issued by the building authority clarified once again. Here, an approval capability was certified on the footprint of the barn, but I had inquired about the southern part of the property. I will especially address the issue of the inner-/outer-area boundary again.

The topic of a possible property division is also a good hint. The road located to the east of the property is a district road, from which access should basically be possible.



: The barns and outbuildings are mainly used as storage space, e.g., grid boxes with wood, etc.
The plan is indeed that ownership will be transferred to me before the start of construction.



“Procrastination” is probably the right word here. Prospectively, presumably no one will take up the agricultural operation again; currently it is fully leased (except for the farmstead). The larger, rear barn is also covered with asbestos cement sheets and is therefore a special case in demolition…
Our thought was also to demolish the remaining barns in the future, but without a precise timeline.
We also see the old residential building as a potential demolition candidate, as it was built before 1900 (no monument protection) and without major renovations. I estimate the roof's remaining lifespan to be not very long. Currently, the house is still occupied by grandmother (> 85 years) and aunt (> 60 years). Ownership transfer would not be an issue and has already been discussed.



The road is a district road serving the village entrance, therefore regularly used, and the noise protection was exactly the reason why we would like to keep the building.

Unfortunately, money does matter, so I have been pondering for a long time how the property could and should be sensibly developed (in the long term). If it were currently unoccupied, it would probably be easier to demolish buildings…
 

ypg

2025-02-01 16:28:11
  • #2
And to the northwest, is that also a street? I would try to ensure that, if necessary, two properties can be made out of one. And that is how I would build. Preserving a barn is never wrong. It replaces the expensive carport or provides possibilities for storage. Is there an aerial photo?
 

majo5254

2025-02-02 11:21:55
  • #3
To the northwest, there is a paved path that leads to agricultural land / fields. There is significantly less traffic here, only occasionally a tractor. We will definitely include a possible plot division in the planning. You never know what the future holds. Attached are a) an aerial photo and b) an idea of how the house could be positioned. Terrace facing south (boundary development), part of the agricultural land as a substitute garden. Access would still be possible from the district road in the east in case a plot division is necessary. With the positioning, we would initially be as far away from the farmyard as possible and could gradually demolish existing buildings as the required space increases.
 

K a t j a

2025-02-02 11:58:44
  • #4
Could it be that the outbuilding has suddenly almost doubled in size? And why is the new house now placed in the garden? I thought it would be difficult to get a building permit there and it would also be harder to develop.
 

majo5254

2025-02-02 12:14:01
  • #5


The outbuilding has only doubled in aerial perspective. The building has a large roof overhang into the courtyard. The building itself is as large as shown on the original site plan.

The positioning in the garden is to possibly make a subdivision of the property easier. As a suggestion for discussion.
Regarding the permit, I still need to have the boundary between inner and outer area examined in detail to find out if it runs within the property.
 

K a t j a

2025-02-02 12:51:10
  • #6
Unfortunately, I now lack the idea of how you want to develop this. Can you include paths and access roads?
 

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